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OK, having never read the manual I now see ‘Driller’ is right on this.
I think the manual should say ‘top’ instead of tip, maybe with (bow zone) in brackets.
I don’t use the term bow ever really, and probably most people would be mystified by that. Hit the top hi-hat bad on the edge for ‘edge hit, hit it on top for a tip hit.
Yeah, it’s still confusing, but I was never confused by Toontrack’s use of the terms ‘tip’ and ‘edge’ with regards to the sampled soundfiles, but I can see now what ‘Driller’ is saying, in the context of the manual text it IS confusing.

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Rogue is right (Olle too actually – I think you were way too harsh on him). The edge of the hi-hat is really only ever played with the shaft of the drumstick.
The term ‘tip’ comes from the part of the drumstick usually used for the other sound (bow).
I’ve never heard of a drummer refer to the bow of a hi-hat cymbal, probably because hi-hats are often pretty flat.
So record producers will ask you to play with the tip of your stick on the ‘top’ of the hi-hat. OR…. they will ask you to play on the edge of the hi-hats (with the shaft).
So, to be pedantic, Toontrack could/should have called the two sounds Tip and Shank, or Bow and Edge. But as it is, most drummers will understand the two sounds being called ‘tip’ and ‘edge’.
There are one or two names Toontrack have given things that aren’t 100% correct, but they are Swedish and make a fine virtual drum kit so I don’t worry about it.

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Try the search function?
This has been asked thousands of times and answered thousands of times.
But here ya go:
Hart dynamics Pro
Roland TD-20 module midi to Digidesign MBox
iMac
Toontrack Solo set to 64 buffers

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Doh!
Actually one immediate drawback I can think of is no way to trigger hi-hat and cymbals.
It’s ok for beefing up drums for live performance, but would be a bummer in the studio.

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Can you use DDrum triggers with the TMC6?
If not, are the Roland triggers any good?

Anyone triggering drum sounds from EZX or Superior using acoustic drums? Does it work OK?

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Anyway, as I said, it looks good in your video.

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This is just for the sake of discussion, and not to be taken personally/too seriously.

Your EZdrummer video is impressive, but I came away thinking the RET/Alesis combo was triggering a majority of the hard hit samples.
I haven’t had my hand on the set up you use I should add, but I like to see an e-kit only trigger the hardest sounding samples when the drummer is playing their hardest hits, not so much for basic grooving.
I wonder if my ears were deceiving me, or your personal velocity set up is just philosophically different to mine, or it was the EZdrummer sound I wasn’t used to?

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Great.
An answer direct from the master.

thanks.

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ORIGINAL: halcyo
When I look around at most commercial e-drums, they are RIDICULOUSLY expensive. WHY?! I’ve played the TD-20 at Sam Ash a few times, and although it is very cool/fun, it really the hell isn’t worth $5000 god damn dollars!

I agree.
It’s hard for me to justify an e-kit when $5k buys you such an amazing acoustic kit.

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