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No, there are no bugs or technical issues in C&V. It’s been available for about 5 years now in two different versions, and there hasn’t been any technical issues reported by the many varied users.
I suggest you contact support, or start another thread that will attract the attention of those forum members who are more technical than me. More experienced with the Superior platform.
Sounds like you have a few problems.
Certainly the Grestch toms should not be panned to one side.
Hi,
Yes I used the N&C kit on the McCartney tour.
I have a different style of N&C kit I use for live playing (Horizon). The Star series is too rare and valuable to me.
I sometimes use the Gretsch kit for very small gigs.
But I don’t gig a lot, preferring to concentrate on studio.
The bass drums are purposely not bright in C&V. We felt all the bass drums available at that time (Superior, BFD etc) were pretty clicky and wanted to offer something different.
The bass drum sound also matches the vibe of the complete collection, as in NOT contemporary rock.
They are all studio kits.
One or two are borrowed – the Slingerland Studio King and the Ludwig Keystone. But the Camco, N&C and Gretsch are all kits I would usually use for recording, not touring.
Generally each SDX contains all the instruments that are recorded on the sessions. Very little if anything is left on the cutting room floor.
While it may be possible to book a new session and record extra sounds, it’s a bit of a compromise as unless the mics are exactly positioned as they were previously, gain set the same, any eq exactly replicated, the recordings wont sound the same as the previous session.
The forum is fast, but I confess the regular Toontrack site is slowish for me.
My connection is slow and waiting for various videos to load on each page before you can navigate the text is a pain.
Crashes are definitely an option.
The bells on splashes often don’t sound very good, although I suppose some do.
There are a few cymbals with no bells, or very insignificant bells too. A few on on C&V had no bell of consequence – flat rides and the SC Mellow ride for example.
ORIGINAL: drufix
It´s kind of funny that you don´t understand RT.
When I’m choosing sounds I hit the arrow for the pulldown menu and I’m generally looking at the choices.
I’ve never looked above the first drum choice. I see now it’s RT.
Where i come from they’re called mounted toms anyway.
I don’t understand ‘RT2’ and ‘RT3’?
The Ludwig was a standard two tom kit. A lot of players prefer that set-up.
The Camco came with three toms.
Different numbers of toms is standard in the drumming world.
A kit is usually sold with a certain tom configuration.
The vinatge Camco kit was obviously bought with three toms.
If I’d wanted to add a fourth tom….. firstly Oaklawn era Camco drums are extremely rare and expensive, secondly if I’d ever been able to source and afford the fourth tom it might not have sound matched the rest of the kit.
Ouch. Too hard.
I guess my favourite kit on the sample pack is the Camco, although I have a strong attachment to the N&C Star series.
Maybe I need to make it two kits……
Camco kit and N&C Star kit.
Two snares:
Ludwig Black Beauty 1920’s version, Craviotto Timeless Timber Birch.
Two cymbal sets:
Paiste Sound Creation – Dark Rides, mellow rides, dark hats.
K Zildjian (1980’s/90’s) – 20″ EAK/McCartney ride, dark crashes.
Actually yes, Beatstation is very easy and can integrate well with other Toontrack products.
One of the most powerful and easy to use softsynths is Omnisphere by Spectrasonics.
It has a vast library and many users just use it as a preset machine.
Other than that, check out KVR for threads as suggested above.
Never underestimate the power of a user manual.
Or even the ‘Read Me’ often included with installs. I don’t think anyone ever reads those.
I think I can answer the first one…
You import your midi data to an ‘Instrument Track’, then select Superior (multi channel) at the top insert toggle button (for that channel/track) in the mixer window.
Might be a good idea, but at some point it really comes down to personal taste and what you decide works.
I imagine David Foster has used many different sounding drums for ballads in his long recording history
Just for clarity, my velocity comment was about bringing the fatness and warmth out of the drums. This resides mostly in the medium to lower velocity samples.
You can still have the drums blasting, you just need to use the mixer and microphone channels, not the midi.
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