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No.
I haven’t met anyone who would do that, unless it’s an fx track they are certain they are going to keep.
Definitely not a good idea with main kit parts like bass drum, snare and toms. You don’t get any benefit doing it upfront to tape rather than after the kit is recorded, but you get the downside that once it’s recorded you can’t adjust it.

[Whitten]

Have you checked out the ‘Custom & Vintage’ midi?

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I would take issue with your ‘higher end stuff’ comment.
DW, Meinl and Zildjian A Customs are just standard brands in the drummers arsenal.
Most of the ‘stuff’ already sampled for Toontrack libraries is considered ‘higher end’.
The gear used on ‘Music City’, ‘NY Legacy’, ‘Evil Drums’ and ‘C&V’ is the same gear all the top professional drummers in the industry are using.
In fact it’s pretty hard to go much ‘higher end’ than the drums and cymbals we sampled for ‘C&V’.
Craviotto, Paiste Sound Creation and Signature, Ludwig Black Beauty, Noble & Cooley, Zildjian K.

I also don’t think there are any license issues, except where a sampling drummer is endorsing a particular brand.
Those involved in creating these drum libraries are choosing the drums and cymbals they think will be most useful to users, and will sound the best.
Simple as that.

[Whitten]

I would try before you buy.
I’m sure the mesh head will be quieter, but perhaps not as quiet as you hope.

[Whitten]

Labeled ‘IMPORTANT, read before posting’ at the top of this forum:
http://www.toontrack.com/forum/tm.aspx?m=98691

[Whitten]

You can easily make your own.
These ending fills are out of time.
Just write in a bunch of cymbal crashes, alternating between 2 or 3 crash cymbals.
Usually each cymbal hit is accompanied with a bass drum hit too.

[Whitten]

I wouldn’t say ‘isolated’ I’d say better.
I agree though, the problem is the alternative sound libraries generally aren’t recorded in a way that would translate to the Toon engine…… except the Platinum packs that is.

[Whitten]

What’s your balance like between the outside mic and inside mic?

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ORIGINAL: juicy
Doubt it ,
whats really fresh for pro users ?

I know plenty of pro users using EZdrummer.

a long wait till deep 2011 . perhaps JAZZ 2.

Well you don’t know do you, so you’re just guessing. Why guess ‘deep 2011’. It could easily be ‘deep 2010’ or early 2011.

[Whitten]

Ditto the above.
Videos are very slow on this site, audio is fine.
I watch the videos on Toon’s YouTube channel.

[Whitten]

What about the people who don’t own Superior but would love some of the Metal Foundry sounds?
By the way they are likely in the majority as EZX’s sell way more than SDX’s.

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The Slingerland kit we sampled for C&V was white.
I doubt it ended up in promo pics for Superior 2 however.

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‘Hard edit’ may not be an accurate technical term.
Everyone has their local tech lingo.
I just meant, when you work with stereo files on a final mix to picture, you can end up doing some radical (and unmusical) things.
A hard edit would be to cut an end to your music at a particular frame of the film, no fade, no rhythm of the music taken into account.
You’re following the picture, not doing musical edits.
Anyway, as for levels, compression and all that, first you need to find out what the ‘deliverables’ are.
Each tv station, film company has a set audio standard they require the mix to be delivered in. Don’t deliver it to that standard and they wont accept it.
In situations like these I also find it valuable to talk to other people in your area doing similar gigs.
Pick the brains of the film editor, the producer, try and get into another film sound company and spend a day picking their brains.

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