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[Whitten]

Kind of a wide ranging question there.
A bit like asking what’s the difference driving a Ford and a Toyota.
They do similar things but in a different way.
Without knowing what PT plug-ins you are talking about, I can only say EZ-Mix is designed to be easy (EZ).
Generally lots of different fx are chained together, but you get limited options to change the parameters.
It often sounds very good, it’s cheap, it’s super easy to use, but less tweakable than a standard plug-in.
I’m guessing a lot of people use both approaches together, EZ Mix and standard plug-ins.

[Whitten]

I could be wrong, but I think people want to hear their original drums, their proposed replacement sounds, AND the music track they are working on all at the same time.
Hard to replace sounds when you have less context.

[Whitten]

It isn’t true.
You can authorize your Toontrack products in an offline state. You get 4 authorizations, so you can authorize in both connected and unconnected forms.
As to how you exactly do all that, don’t ask me as I’m not a tech head.

[Whitten]

I’m not a huge fan of plug-ins, although I do enjoy some, so I’m probably not expert enough to point you in the right direction.

However, this gets rave reviews:
http://www.stillwellaudio.com/?page_id=342

Or perhaps something like this:
http://www.abbeyroadplugins.com/product_about_rs124_compressor__43389.aspx

Perhaps a bit of this:
http://www.pspaudioware.com/plugins/dynamic_processors/psp_mixsaturator2/

Or this:
http://www.smassey.com/au.html

Most of the above have demos, or a free.

[Whitten]

Two things I would consider…..
Lower velocity hits.
This almost always produces softer, warmer tones from the drums.

Secondly, valve compression. Make it barely noticeable, but it can soften attack and warm the drum tone.

[Whitten]

I’m talking about Benny Grebb and Mike Portnoy SDX’s for example.

[Whitten]

You guys seem to build up every possible release date, then sound deeply disappointed as the dates come and go.
Just sayin’…..

[Whitten]

ORIGINAL: dave20018675
I’m not sure that it’s that simple, because to add the beat in the first place you already have to be in Slip Mode–

Well one of Pro Tools weaknesses is midi.
When you watch Pro Tools experts at work they are using a lot of shortcut keys. In reality I think you often need to employ Absolute Grid mode, Relative Grid mode and Slip mode all at once.
Also, the grid resolution has an effect, if you are in 1/4 note grid you can’t work in smaller increments, 64th note grid gives you a lot more leeway.

[Whitten]

No, I can’t quite understand what you are talking about to be honest.
Do you mean you draw in extra notes in a section of groove (in the piano roll window), like an extra hi-hat note or snare skip?
In my experience with PT, it usually doesn’t resize a region unless a new event touches the end of the bar, or crosses the bar.
Could you explain in more detail what you are trying to do, how you are doing it, and what Pro Tools is doing as a result?
It does sound like a PT issue to me by the way.

[Whitten]

Also, I really advocate learning to look past the pre-set names and categories.
It’s all in the ear of the beholder.
A bass preset can sound great on a drum kit ambience channel. A mastering eq/compressor patch can be killer on snare drum. Etc. etc….

[Whitten]

First read this:
http://www.toontrack.com/forum/tm.aspx?m=98691

Then if your EZdrummer is registered, try logging out of the forum and log back in.
There are support forums, you obviously aren’t seeing them.

[Whitten]

Velocity works in Beatstation.
I’m just saying you can’t currently switch the actual samples, based on velocity information.
Superior picks suitable samples based on the velocity info coming in to each drum.
So if you had 100 bass drum samples, sampled at different velocities, Superior chooses which sample to playback.
You have a maximum of 5 sounds for each pad in Beatstation. They stack and all play simultaneously, they don’t play back individually based on velocity.
To load a single bass drum sample of your own into Beatstation and have it trigger every time a bass drum is played in Superior is super easy though, and very quick to achieve.

[Whitten]

ORIGINAL: norrie

I would be interested to hear of any one who has done what I am looking to do but useing beat station and perhaps let me hear something

I’ve done it.
It isn’t as fully featured as Superior though.
You can stack samples on each pad, but at present you can’t velocity switch them.
Beatstation will load any WAV’s, so I’ve sampled drums at 24bit, 96Khz. Beatstation also reads other Toontrack midi straight away. So you just launch Beatstation, copy your Toon midi file to the track and edit out any bits you don’t want (like the hi-hat part for instance).
This set up basically works like a very fast and easy to use drum replacer, enhancer if you start with something like Superior and want to add your own sounds on a second channel (aka Beatstion).
The other bonus with Beatstation is the suite of fx you can use on your own samples (bit crush, reverb, eq, compression etc…)

[Whitten]

You want to import your own sounds into Superior?

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