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ORIGINAL: bamim2

Am I the only one who can’t read this?

really? you don’t know how to enlarge a webpage? why do you even have a computer? hahaha

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just gimme some midi parameters! christ on a pogo stick! midi parameters plz…

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i really dont even see a mac v. pc thing goin down here. i want a mac. like rosie o’donnel wants donuts. but b.sabbath is right about a thousand dlr pc being more powerful than a 2000 dlr mac. one of the main reasons i want a mac is the onboard firewire port. my pc’s firewire port sucked and i have to use an expresscard =

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i know you can run reaper on both platforms,man. my point was that you can only run reamote on a windows machine and not on a mac. which does suck cuz i would looooooove a mac. @ juicy that only applies if you dont know your machine.

http://wiki.cockos.com/wiki/index.php/ReaMote

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yea im using a windows vista computer and i have no qualms about. and im buying another windows computer for my next purchase. reaper allows networking of windows based computers for more processing power which is a really really really awesome feature. id buy a mac if reaper wasnt my daw but ill get some hella mad processing power going on with a windows machine

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yea man electronica ezx for the kicks snares 808’s beatstation for the funky gtr and bass samples and number 1 hits ezx as icing on the hip hop cake

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electronica ezx and beatstation cover that territory

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^^what he said. drums are percussive not tonal…

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reaper is only 40 bucks right now btw

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lol yes that’s basically what i wanted to go for a modern grind thrash noise fest. pull out all the stops! well if there is some staccato type stuff it’s gonna be played fast as well .

as far as the loudness war v. mix clarity i completely understand your point and im all for it. im still learning to mix and at this point im so sure i have quite alot to learn especially with linear phase eq’s. i’d say my mix knowledge is still very fundamental and that is apparent in my mixes. but as far as this project goes i will want it to have a bit of dirt on it in the end. more meat a fuller sound im all for that but for this project i want you to work for the music. i dont want instant gratification so to speak with the mix imo it would defeat the overall theme or aesthetic that im going for. but yea i would say that knowing how to mix with clarity will definitely help me when i want regress to a dirtier mix how could it not

as for the width control visually it is a horizontal slider where having it hard right is 100% width of the track while dragging it left reduces the amount of width. idk if this is post or pre fx processing that ill have to check into.

as for the gtrs rhythmic phase cancellation with respect to overall clarity theres actually only one song that is double tracked which is the first untitled song. sorry for any misleadings on that one. there are in total only four gtr tracks in each mix all with two panned left and the other two panned right of course. as for the second two songs i wanna say that it was just one performance that was captured on four tracks. the last one might be double tracked but probly isnt. i record and re record this stuff constantly!

i think im going to remix the whole thing as ive been mixing all the songs in one project for months now! hah time to move on. oh the luxuries of in the box recording ^___^ i have the metal foundry, metalheads, and DFH expansions to experiment width so i’ll definitely take any mix advice i can get. BTW i did double up on the drum compression one master compressor inside S2.0 and another in reaper’s mixer. still got some more beef to add lol

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sweeet

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as for the mix i have some master compression going on i also have those two psychoacoustic maximizers on the master as well and there is some subtractive eq on the gtrs. i put high pass filters on the gtrs so it would stay out of the way of the kick. theres a whole bunch of 6th string alternate picking going on and a bunch of kick work. also the gtrs are almost panned hard left hard right but to be honest i never liked them all the way out in the stereo spectrum like that especially since i mostly record without bass. also i did narrow the gtrs in reaper. in the beta version of reaper 4 that ive been using they have this “width” control on each track so i applied a little of it to each gtr track and i felt it helped to focus the gtr mix so that it wasnt too loose or too far out in the stereo spectrum. and ive definitely got some work to do on the mix in general and more learning of course! haha but as far as the aesthetic feel that im going for i’m definitely trying to buck the trend of the having a too polished mix. an example of this would be wormrot’s new album entitled dirge. the sound is great huge gtrs and a fat mix but that album is right on the verge of being too polished. some days i want that huge ass sound but i try to remind myself that i dont want my music to sound like a relic of the past 10 to 15 years from now (which it still may be, despite my efforts! hah). but anyways i do appreciate the feedback i was just frustrated that ive posted on here before and get few to no responses while the djent(another contemporary metal trend thats really not worthy of being labeled a sub genre at all at this point imo) stuff gets all the attention.

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im not worried so much about making a very polished mix. and actually thats the type of vocals im going for: a woman being set on fire. high pitched screams are my fave and honestly i feel that women can actually get better vocals in that context than men. examples would include kat katz of agoraphobic nosebleed and Melanie Mongeon of fuck the facts. plus discordance axis and gridlink who dont have a female vocalist but have very high pitched screams. as for the style/composition it is grindcore and it is an acquired taste

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yea the gtrs are double tracked but there is no bass. ive tried adding bass but i cant mix it well so it ends up feeling too “warm” thus removing some of the percussive impact. and as for the djent crap yea, ironic that i use that bulb preset, hey it is a good preset! but i did tweak the hell out of the toms they were a bit weak imo. as for the vocals i was going for a more luc lemay gorguts’ obscura type sound but old school PD is one of my influences. thanks for the responses!

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nice, thank you.

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