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[Tim Zurowski]

Okay, I will assume lack of any response means no chance of a Midi Pack for the Latin Percussion. Too bad, because I think it would sell really well and is really needed. Not many people who purchase the EZX will have the equipment to play the percussion themselves, and the midi patterns that come with the EZX are very limiting.

[Tim Zurowski]

Update:

Downloaded the Addictive Drums 2 demo and LOVED it! Purchased the “Custom” version of AD2 for $150 USD. It has full midi mapping capabilities including a “learn” function. Super easy to map my kit, and now I am back in business. My drummer loves the samples as well! Maybe not as much tweaking ability as SD2, but (to me) sounds better and has more than enough tweaking built in (much more than EZD2). Even though I am leaving Toontrack and EZD2 behind, you still should seriously consider adding midi mapping to EZD2 so you don’t loose any more customers. Speaking for myself though, I am kind of glad this happened because I would never have moved over to AD2 otherwise. Thanks for helping me move over to the best drum program for me 🙂

[Tim Zurowski]

Yes, I have tried the minimal mapping in the settings. I have already been through all of this at your other forums here. There is no way for me to map my Yamaha DTXtreme IIs kit with EZD2. IMHO, adding midi mapping to EZD2 would be extremely EZ and make the program EZ as you say. I have also demo`d Superior Drummer 2 and I have friend who uses it in his studio. Simply put, I do not like it nearly as much as EZD2. Plus, it costs a lot more to upgrade to SD2 just to get midi mapping! I still believe that midi mapping should be a standard feature in ANY midi program. AFAIK, EZD2 is the only program that does not have it. I have a $3500 E-Drum kit sitting here that I cannot use in my studio simply because EZD2 does not allow me to map the kit. I never would have bought it, had I known before hand.

And, if your company still stands behind the archaic policy to not advise of any future updates, then you are going to continue to loose people like me to other products. Telling people of future updates, or at least giving them some hope, would only help your business 😉

[Tim Zurowski]

Okay, not one response from the Toontrack Dev team, who apparently don’t seem to care at all. Off to download the Addictive Drums demo which includes a full midi mapping function for only $169. I can’t believe any company would put out a midi product without full midi mapping capabilities. While the samples sound good, I feel I wasted my $$$ on EXD2, since it is useless with my Yamaha E-Drum kit.

[Tim Zurowski]

Well, after much frustration trying to get this Yamaha kit to work with EZD2, I have finally concluded that it is simply just not possible. I don’t need or want to spend the extra cash for SD2, so this Yamaha Kit is (sadly) being returned. I guess all of our recordings are going to have to be done with newer kits, and probably Roland 🙁

[Tim Zurowski]

Thanks Brad for the reply. Apparently the IIS does not have mapping in the brain (confirmed by Yamaha) but the III does. Can anyone confirm that the mapping and learn functions in SD2 will make this kit usable? I hate to spring an extra $250 for SD2 just to find out that it won’t work with this kit.

[Tim Zurowski]

Okay, so no help with this issue here. Can anyone at least confirm for me that this DTXtreme iis kit will definitely work with SD2, and that SD2 has “complete” midi mapping capabilities to custom map this kit to work properly?

[Tim Zurowski]

@Whitten said:

Yeah, but there was information about the upgrade path from EZdrummer 1 to 2,.

Absolutely not true! There was no info whatsoever about this, which is why I was trying to contact and ask Toontrack. Do you think I would originally have bothered posting here if it was all straight forward there were no problems. I have downloaded and installed software by the hundreds, and I believe I can honestly say this was the most vague and confusing product I have ever purchased this way. Things are finally getting resolved, but no I am not happy. I could list dozens of things I find wrong with the whole procedure, the lack of info provided, these forums and the product, but as it is I am not happy with EZD2. Like I have already said I have accepted that I wasted my money and will move on. I honestly get that this is a great product for many people out there, but it is not what I was hoping for. I have also learned my lesson and will never purchase another product that does not offer a demo version prior to purchasing. I did download the Addictive Drums demo before going this route and for various reasons decided to go with EZD2. Thanks, but I’ll stick with real drummers and the occasional use of Drumagog.

[Tim Zurowski]

@Whitten said:

I think a lot of people are buying EZdrummer 2 as a new product, their first Toontrack product.

Which is exactly what I was told I was doing. Thus the confusion for me.

[Tim Zurowski]

@Nutbag01 said:

Tim…..you’ll have to delve a little deeper in to the midi.Yes it is designed mainly for rock/pop/metal but the midi can be added or subtracted.There are tons of videos on Youtube showing how to get very complex drum rhythms…but you have to look for them and then watch them(yep,sorry,it’s gonna take some work).Toontrack never said they were going to give you a thousand full recordings of a jazz drummer jamming out for several minutes.They give you the basics to start creating complex drum patterns.Watch the EZdrummer2 videos recently posted on youtube(by toontrack)and you will see some of the things you CAN do,very easily to make great drum patterns.As for your complaints about buying EZdrummer1 and thinking it was EZdrummer2….EZD2 is an upgrade,always was an upgrade and was never publicized to be anything else.Maybe you should buy your music at another store?(or done a little research).As for installation…..download…..unzip….install….authorize….done.Most computers I have worked on with a DAW(or even stand alone like EZD2)will automatically chose the correct VST/plugin path.I think you made it too complicated for yourself.It took me a while to realize this when I was a novice at using computer based recording software.Anyways,good luck and I hope you give it a chance,it is an amazing product with pretty amazing sounding drums(and with individual outputs and the addition of effects,sounds are endless).

First, I am NOT a novice. I have probably been at this stuff 10 times longer than you have. This was not user error! These issues were real. None of the things happened the way you suggest they should. Second, I have watched ALL the YouTube videos before I purchased and my understanding was obviously different than yours. I suspect you do not play or record “fusion” music and have no idea what it is nor what would be required to manipulate these samples to work for some styles. It would literally take me 50 times longer than just getting a drummer in and record is in audio, which is what I have been doing since the 70’s. I am not a drummer and was hoping that this drum software would be a good drummer. Yes, I am a novice with VSTi drum software, which is why there should be a demo available for people like me. Anyway, not a big deal . . . . . $149 is not going to break the bank to find out that this way of recording is not for me. If I had a drummer with a good electronic kit, I could do it that way, but I am not going to pay thousands to go that route. You simply do not understand the undertaking this would be. Besides, I am not at all into spending dozens of hours manipulating simple drum grooves to fit. I would be okay with minor manipulation, but not the amount it is going to take. Just to give you a basic idea of what I am talking about, here is a song we recorded back around 2000. https://soundcloud.com/zuropak/keyhole Do you think you could take the samples in EZD2 and rearrange them to do something like this? If yes, then you are a God

[Tim Zurowski]

Thank you Erik, for the most part that all makes sense to me. So can you tell me the exact location and folder name that I move for the midi and samples? It is not a big deal now, but if/when I add more grooves and samples my system drive is not that big.

Not sure if I was supposed to do this or not, but I did uninstall EZDrummer 1 before I installed EZDrummer 2. Should I have left EZD1 installed? Maybe that has something to do with my situation? If I go to MY ACCOUNT and MY PRODUCTS it lists EZDrummer as “Update Available” and “unauthorized”. Is this correct? It lists EZDrummer 2 but says nothing underneath it (i.e. no unauthorized or authorized) Does this mean it is authorized and everything is okay? Or should it be saying authorized? I also got a product key for EZD1, but do not know what my product key is for EZD2? It also lists Pop/Rock EZX as “unathorized”. Is this how MY PRODUCTS should be displayed?

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