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[Scott Eshleman]

@Dazed Veins said:

Hi, I am interested in your software, beware: I just destroyed a MOTU BPM software package and an iLok dongle, and I injured a toe. So please tell me: does ezkeys require an iLok dongle or not? No, and I won’t care if it is not in your faq, I DELIBERATELY will not buy your software as long as I can’t find the next message at your site IMMEDIATELY: “this software DOESN’T require any dongle.” Thank you in advance and you don’t have to reply: I will be waiting.

interesting post….
Toontrack software currently DOESN’T require any dongle.
Your toes are safe but for other hardware and software.

[Scott Eshleman]

I’d suggest bouncing the tracks to audio in the DAW or export them from EZDrummer2.
You can then cut’em up and place them on wherever beats you like.

[Scott Eshleman]

why not “Copy and Paste” only the kit piece that you want?
then you’ll only have one (1) kit piece to remove if you want to make a completely blank groove.
and I’m a little more than curious why you’d want to make a blank groove in EZDrummer….
is it just used as a “spacer” in a larger groove?

[Scott Eshleman]

@Michael said:
You can not drag and drop a file from the desktop to the pro tools plugin but you can drag and drop a file from the desktop to EZDrummer 2 stand alone. You can then save the EZdrummer 2 project (menu > Project > Save project). Finally you would open this project in EZDrummer 2 launched in pro tools (menu > Project > Load project)

Sorry…
I hate to disagree with you but I have been successful at dragging MIDI from the Desktop or from folders on external hard drives into the EZDrummer2 plugin within Pro Tools 11 (on my MacBook Pro with OSX).

[Scott Eshleman]

for me, parts of it had a spy-thriller, espionage soundtrack feel and the solo had an Alex Lifeson (RUSH) vibe.
In other words, “cool, very cool”

[Scott Eshleman]

I’ve tried to ‘drag and drop’ as well as ‘copy and paste’ back from both Logic Pro X and Pro Tools 11 without success.
However I have successfully dragged(?) MIDI from the Desktop into EZDrummer2.

[Scott Eshleman]

Beautiful.
Nicely & tastefully done.

[Scott Eshleman]

@chris said:

Saw the previous EZKeys is Horrible thread.

Well for me its fantastic. If you are an accomplished pianist you don’t need EZKeys. I’m not. I’m a guitarist. This software has opened up a so far unachievable world for me. I think its stunning. I cannot play a keyboard, yet can now produce piano based songs. Here is an example written totally in EZKeys for an artist called Heather Merryn. Its been played on the BBC here in UK. You may not think its any good or like it, but for me this was just not possible until now.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZudJCZf4tc&list=UUso4kb6MxXzrIVdW5ftYLUA

I’m not linked to Toontrack in any way other than a very happy customer.

Just one point minor point Toontrack. It looks like you used admin rights to lock out the ‘EZKeys is Horrible’ thread. No need to do that…. let your customers speak for themselves whatever the alternative views.

Cheers

Chris

Awesome, Chris!!! Friikon awesome!!!

[Scott Eshleman]

@mrdrums said:

@nigel.smith said:

maybe more instructive help or videos would be helpful lets have a building block learning curve based across all genres not just the metal community as championed by the guy with the beard . but then it becomes uneasy . like logic 9 . come on toontrack back it up . if you go down the road of belittling peoples computer skills re cut and paste you are the guys out of time . why throw your reputation away . a recent uk magazine guitarist poll said only 4 %had got into computer composing theres your market educate the masses not the current generation exclusively . i have had nigh on 30 years of looking in on this arena ,1986 midi /smpte . the minute you go computer nerdy you’ve lost and who are we kidding you can’t replace a real drummer so calm down and relax good luck

I have no problems with using computerized parts in recordings, if I can get whats in my head into musical form, im good with that.

I can do that with drums, it will play what i want it to play, when I edit it. Keys will not, granted, it’s harder with musical notes and not just percussion.

but they charge a frikon lot of money for something Not really useable for a pro recording.

Opinions vary. As will results.
Please do not presume to think you know what I do or not understand.
I did my due diligence before laying down my money and got everything that I expected.
Nothing more. Nothing less.

And you know, I might even have agreed to some extent if EZKeys was used solely & only in standalone mode
but you contextualized your usage in terms of ‘editing’ and ‘pro recording’ – presumably in a host/DAW of some sort.

[Scott Eshleman]

@mrdrums said:
Drums is different, because it’s just rhythm, and you can edit fills and beats to precisely fit your song. With Piano, you are stuck with what is programmed. lets say you
have a riff playing on the guitar, and you would like the piano to do the same thing….Sorry Charlie, it wont, it will play a chord.
Cabice?

Oh, I think that I understand. You want EZKeys to play cover songs and to somehow(?) inherently know how to play the song.
It’s a virtual instrument just like EZDrummer. It will play any MIDI that you feed to it…step programmed, recorded or imported.
If you want the piano to play the same riff as the guitar, it can do that. You have only to give it the MIDI to do so.

Your rationale about the use and editing of MIDI drum grooves can just as easily be applied to the piano parts.
You are by no means “stuck with what is programmed“. It won’t play a chord unless programmed to play a chord.
It can and will play single note riffs, double-stops, octaves, sixths, etc. Legato, staccato, etc.
It’s only limitations are those imposed natively by the instrument sampled. (and some of those limitations can be ‘overridden’ by modern technologies)

If you want it to play Andrew Lloyd Webber or The Beatles, program them, step record them or find the MIDI for them.
I think that Toontrack will readily admit that (currently) their EZKeys MIDI pack libraries do not include MIDI for any specific songs
(unlike the EZDrummer MetalHeads expansion with 12 Meshuggah songs in MIDI format, performed by Tomas Haake).

I also think that once you understand the product for the compositional features and gorgeous sounds it offers, you’ll come to appreciate it for what it does.

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