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[Andrew Payne]

Another update that may help your investigation to solve.

If I save as with a diff name then I can make further changes and update with save

HOWEVER if I save as with a different name and then try and save as again with original name (to override the original), I can do this however if I then try and make further save changes, I get the same error message.

Reply To: Project Settings – Please version: 3.3.5
Operating system: Windows 10

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[Andrew Payne]

Hi Olof,

I have been investigating a bit more.

If I try and save 3.3.3 or 3.3.4 user kits it doesn’t work so my only option is save as (with new name). I get the same error message when I try just the save option

Once I have saved in 3.3.5 however the save option does then work if I want to do further changes. It seems that save works for 3.3.5 user kits but not for 3.3.3 or 3.3.4 user kits.

Hope this helps you to work out what has happened. cheers, Andrew

Reply To: Project Settings – Please version: 3.3.5
Operating system: Windows 10

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[Andrew Payne]

Hi Mark – I would wait if I was you – see my recent post. cheers, Andrew

Andrew Payne wrote:

Thanks for the update. I have some good news and some bad news.

Good news is channel orders are retained with both 3.3.3 user kits I had as well as with 3.3.4 user kits so this has worked.

Unfortunately I have a major issue in that when I make an update and go to save the preset I cannot do this – see error message. See attached screenshots. First is a complicated user kit – it is in Hitmaker and user Toms and Kick from FOR Stone (Sonor kit) – it was saved in 3.3.4.  I was however able to use “save as” and give it another name.

Second example is all within Hitmaker but same issue with saving the preset – and same error message. This was originally saved in 3.3.3 and again I could use “save as” and give it a different name.

Please check this urgently as major issue for me. Thanks , Andrew

Reply To: Bug report SD3 with Metal Foundy and xdrums version: 3.3.5
Operating system: Windows 10

Reply To: Bug report SD3 with Metal Foundy and xdrums version: 3.3.5
Operating system: Windows 10

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[Andrew Payne]

Thanks for the update. I have some good news and some bad news.

Good news is channel orders are retained with both 3.3.3 user kits I had as well as with 3.3.4 user kits so this has worked.

Unfortunately I have a major issue in that when I make an update and go to save the preset I cannot do this – see error message. See attached screenshots. First is a complicated user kit – it is in Hitmaker and user Toms and Kick from FOR Stone (Sonor kit) – it was saved in 3.3.4.  I was however able to use “save as” and give it another name.

Second example is all within Hitmaker but same issue with saving the preset – and same error message. This was originally saved in 3.3.3 and again I could use “save as” and give it a different name.

Please check this urgently as major issue for me. Thanks , Andrew

Reply To: Project Settings – Please version: 3.3.5
Operating system: Windows 10

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[Andrew Payne]

If you Google “Carter Beauford Zildjian setup” you will find the cymbals details.

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[Andrew Payne]

Hi John,

Thanks for the response and you can understand that this is very inconvenient for me as I have lost my saved channel orders in all of my user kits (and I have lots).

Is there going to be a fix and is it likely to be soon or will I have to go in and rearrange everything and resave in 3.3.4 ?

Thanks, Andrew

Reply To: Project Settings – Please version: 3.3.4
Operating system: Windows 10

Dell Precision 7730, i7 6 Core 2.6 GHz, 128GB RAM, 1TB SSD and 3 x 2TB SSD, Windows 11, Cubase Pro 14, SD3 plus a variety of SDX's and EZX's, Orchestral Percussion, EZBASS, RME BabyFace Pro FS and KRK V4 monitors. Modified Yamaha DTX900, DTXPRESS4 and Edrumin10 triggering SD3. Yamaha pads/cymbals and Roland VH-10 HiHat. PDP Maple acoustic kit for live playing.

[Andrew Payne]

Hi John and Toontrack Team,

I have just updated to 3.3.4 and have noticed a change in my User kits (and Project Settings) that I had saved. As part of these I had rearranged the order of Mic Channels (and User Mic’s) and also the order of Buses and Outputs in my user kits.

I have just attempted to load these after the update and all rearranged channels have gone back to where they were before I made any changes – looks like the original order before I rearranged and changed after the recent update that allowed rearranging channel order. This is a major pain as I now have to change over 40 of my user kits and rearrange the channel again. It happens whether I load via saved projects or via accessing my user kits separately.

Is this a result of the update 3.3.4 and if so is there any fix to return to what I had saved. Hope you guys can check this out quickly.

cheers, Andrew

Reply To: Project Settings – Please version: 3.3.4
Operating system: Windows 10

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[Andrew Payne]

Thanks John for your reply.

Good to know I wasn’t going mad and look forward to the update. Thanks Andrew

Reply To: Project Settings – Please version: 3.3.3
Operating system: Windows 10

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[Andrew Payne]

This is the project attached but I presume you will also need to my user kit as well ?HIT-16-TAMAZ

Reply To: Project Settings – Please version: 3.3.3
Operating system: Windows 10

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[Andrew Payne]

Hi John (or others at Toontrack),

Have you had a chance to look at this ?

I originally thought it was just affecting the multi channel outputs however you can see in my original screenshots that it also affecting buses and these are also not saved when I save a project. Does it mean that a Project does not save any bus or output channel mixer settings when the Manual states under 9.1 that it saves “Mixer Settings (including all effect settings and levels)” ?

And if not I suggest that this should be stated more clearly in the manual under 9.1 – or even better, can it be fixed to include buses and multi outputs ?

Thanks Andrew

Reply To: Project Settings – Please version: 3.3.3
Operating system: Windows 10

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[Andrew Payne]

That is correct John and it happens whether I open another project within SD3 or after I fully close and reopen SD3.

It is even happening to my default project when I start up so for some reason the the multi output mixer levels are not being saved in the project (or not being recalled correctly).

Is there anything else you want me to supply or show to demonstrate ?

And am I correct in my assumption that a project should save all drum, mixer, bus and output settings ? Thanks Andrew

Reply To: Project Settings – Please version: 3.3.3
Operating system: Windows 10

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[Andrew Payne]

why would you post that ?

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[Andrew Payne]

Log this in “Requests and Feedback” under the forum “Customer Service”. cheers

Reply To: Superior Drummer 4 wishlist version: 3.3.3
Operating system: Windows 10

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[Andrew Payne]

I have a similar “gripe” in SD3 and SDX. When I replace a Crash with another type of cymbal besides a crash, the new graphic defaults to the black or blank cymbal even though I have chosen a cymbal that has it’s own graphic – either in same library or from another SDX. I understand the black if I create my own sample (which I do sometimes) but even then I would have thought it is not too hard to choose a better graphic so if it is a cymbal sample then have an option to choose a similar cymbal graphic.

I also do similar with drums and add extra toms to replicate a 5 tom edrum setup. Again sometimes I get the blank “electronic pad” if I put a tom in a floortom spot instead of a drum graphic and it looks ugly.

I know it is only minor (and the sound is the most important thing) but I am an edrummer who does this a lot and it looks ugly on screen with black cymbals or “electronic pad” looking drum graphics in SD3/SDX. A couple of screenshots to show it. Also happens in EZX expansions as explained by OP in original post above.

Can this be looked at ?

I will add that the sounds and the software are absolutely awesome and I love it – totally hooked on sound design and everytime I think I have enough SDX expansions, Toontrack bring out something like Hitmaker – and I can’t resist !!

Thanks, Andrew

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[Andrew Payne]

So where did it go wrong.

Reply To: Crash 1 bow tip (not loaded) version: 3.3.3
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