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[Nathan]

If you ever start being owned by Waves I will take my business elsewhere. Most awful customer experiences ever.

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SD2.3, NYII, C&V, MC, MF, ED, Latin Perc, Twisted, Pop, N1H, Electronic, Classic, Funkmasters, Rock Solid, Blues, Indie-Folk.

[Nathan]

I wonder if I’m in a class of 1 here, I would bring them down so that they were hiting my DAW channel at -12 to -18dBFSD. I haven’t tried any presets yet (tho curious now), am I right in presuming that these are delivering at above 6dB.

And I send to multiple DAW channels, in this case are they being delivered to a stero pair?

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SD2.3, NYII, C&V, MC, MF, ED, Latin Perc, Twisted, Pop, N1H, Electronic, Classic, Funkmasters, Rock Solid, Blues, Indie-Folk.

[Nathan]

I can’t speak for the presets, but I don’t think SD is designed to be finished sounds out of the box. There is no EQ and dynamic processing performed on the samples, just the (highly configurable) mic outputs to route to your DAW to do your thing.

I think as a product it’s more aimed at engineers who want to perform their own processing on the sounds, just as they would with tracks from a real kit in a studio. I bought it over EZD for this reason, I dont want someone else to process these sounds, I know what I’m doing here from studio and live recordings and mixing.

I know that SD sounds come alive with decent compressors on them and the room mics, just as I’d expect well-recorded raw drum tracks to do.

I would agree with you that the idea of the presets would be to do much of this for you, and if the preset is designed to go with a particular library or kit within it, finding that the gain structure is wrong would be worrying. Maybe the preset doesn’t control the fader in the mixer; I don’t know as I don’t use them.

I certainly have no complaints about the sounds from SDX libraries, but they will need the expected compression and EQ to make them sparkle, they won’t be like SS out of the box (thank goodness).

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SD2.3, NYII, C&V, MC, MF, ED, Latin Perc, Twisted, Pop, N1H, Electronic, Classic, Funkmasters, Rock Solid, Blues, Indie-Folk.

[Nathan]

Thanks Damian, where can I download the PDF that comes with the library please? (mapping and blurb on instruments/sounds)

Many thanks…

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SD2.3, NYII, C&V, MC, MF, ED, Latin Perc, Twisted, Pop, N1H, Electronic, Classic, Funkmasters, Rock Solid, Blues, Indie-Folk.

[Nathan]

I can see nothing in the licence agreement that stops you selling original recordings made with EZD. If there is, then there’s an awful lot of us contravening it..!

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SD2.3, NYII, C&V, MC, MF, ED, Latin Perc, Twisted, Pop, N1H, Electronic, Classic, Funkmasters, Rock Solid, Blues, Indie-Folk.

[Nathan]

Well I supose that the pitch of the hats could be changed; would that save in the preset?

I do a bunch of things to drum sounds with outboard and plugins (mostly because I am familiar with them) or a Liquid Mix. Havent really explored the internal processing very far, which is why I wanted to look at this…

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SD2.3, NYII, C&V, MC, MF, ED, Latin Perc, Twisted, Pop, N1H, Electronic, Classic, Funkmasters, Rock Solid, Blues, Indie-Folk.

[Nathan]

I’m sure Sonar allows you to edit MIDI notes, so I guess the answer has to be yes.

I use MIDI grooves as starting points for some rhythms (go Nir!), and I use REAPER to edit the MIDI -Sonar is supposed to have much better MIDI capability…

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SD2.3, NYII, C&V, MC, MF, ED, Latin Perc, Twisted, Pop, N1H, Electronic, Classic, Funkmasters, Rock Solid, Blues, Indie-Folk.

[Nathan]

I’d like to second that request too please.

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SD2.3, NYII, C&V, MC, MF, ED, Latin Perc, Twisted, Pop, N1H, Electronic, Classic, Funkmasters, Rock Solid, Blues, Indie-Folk.

[Nathan]

Thanks, Scott. I hadn’t seen that channel on the EZD mixer. I wouldn’t mind betting they were recorded in 24-bit and reduced for the EZX though 😉 From what I’ve heard on the demo pages, it’s not an issue -I think I’m going to go for the Latin pack.

You guys fancy doing an african drum/ ethnic percussion library? I’ve looked at loading samples from my multitracks of an ensemble into shortcircuit. Doums and Djembes, Dholaks and Tablas anyone? I used to engineer quite a few flavours of acts and I must have some outtakes I could use.

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SD2.3, NYII, C&V, MC, MF, ED, Latin Perc, Twisted, Pop, N1H, Electronic, Classic, Funkmasters, Rock Solid, Blues, Indie-Folk.

[Nathan]

Thanks for your reply John. It’s a pity there isn’t that facility, but it can be done quite easily in the DAW after MIDI creation, so no huge issue. Is there a feature request “wishlist” or similar to put forward these suggestions please?

…and back in the real world the drum performance is there in theory. All too often some of it is provided by the engineer

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[Nathan]

Thanks Scott, but I’m comfortable with the workflow, what I’m actually asking is if there is a way of listening to more than one instrument (drum) from within Drumtracker.

The manual gives the impression that Superior Drummer (or similar) can be linked via MIDI to DT to preview drum sounds from detected triggers.

There are facilities in DT to adjust timing and velocity of individual hits, but there seems to not be a way of listening to (say) the Kick and the Snare to check the effect of any timing/velocity changes. DT seems to let you preview the triggered sound of only one track at a time using it’s internal preview sounds, I’m asking if this is the case with previewing sounds thru MIDI into say Superior Drummer2. Remember, if using multiple wav files the drums are on their own source tracks.

It seems to be a bit of an omission if this is the case, as it would mean having to export the MIDI and head into the DAW to perform any further meaningful MIDI note tweaking -surely you can’t adjust the kick or the snare timing without listening to the other.

Not the end of the world, but it seems strange not to have this functionality on software specifically designed for working with multitrack drum files :0/

I hope this clarifies the question.

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