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[Nathan]

You can adjust the timing (phase) of the overhead channels too, to align them on the snare…

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[Nathan]

Thank you John, and thank you also, Fizbin.

I ended up getting the Pop EZX just for the additional percussion -you and your claves!

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[Nathan]

Not in front of my workstation, Fizbin; what extension should that combined preset have please?

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[Nathan]

When you buy your package, first you’ll need to sign up on the Toontrack website to create a user account. That should be the most difficult bit Enter your packages serial number and it will appear as a registered item in your account page.

When you install EZD, SD2 or any libraries, on first running it, a challenge box will appear saying it is not authorised and it will give you a code unique to your computer.

On the TT account page, click authorise, and type or copy that number in. This will give you an Authorisation number which you type or copy into the challenge box -your package should then be authorised and you can use it.

The computer you install your package on and the computer you access the internet on don’t have to be the same machine, although it’s easier to copy and paste the codes if you do -I think I even authorised on of mine via my mobile phone.

In practice it takes a lot less time to do than explain. You can have two authorisations active as explained in your other thread, four total, and Scott and the guys here arevery helpful should you need any further ones due to replacement computers, etc.

EZD seems to be great for quiick and easy drums, SD2 is better if you know your way round a mixing desk (that’s a very condensed summary!). EZD runs EZX libraries; SD2 runs both SDX and EZX drum libraries. I’m a very happy customer.

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[Nathan]

ORIGINAL: Phattlippz
Hi – this is just a request for you to release at least a MIDI pack with really OLD school drum beats. I’m talking 1920’s, 30’s, 40’s and 50’s stuff–simple, elegant, in the pocket, musical beats that recall the golden age of American popular music before rock and roll sent the craft of songwriting, composing, orchestration and arranging into a downward spiral. Everything from old big band (Gene Krupa, Basie, Ellington etc), to old latin beats like you might hear on so called “exotica” records by Les Baxter, Esquivel, etc., lounge grooves, easy listening, etc.

What would be really cool would be a drum set with typical retro percussion (i.e. woodblocks, bicycle horn, cowbell, timpani etc.) – basically a comedy kit a la spike jones, that has an old-school sound and a lot of MIDI files of all styles from that period.

In the meantime, woodblocks, cowbell and other percussion can be found on the LP and Pop EZXs. Not found the bicycle horn yet and would love some tympani…

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[Nathan]

I’ll second the request for stuff like that.

I don’t know if orchestral percussion is out of TT’s league, but I’d like more varied percussion, and also more non-conventional drums (African, Indian percussion, etc.)

Just adding percussion, a few twisted kit stabs and some electronic sounds to a soundtrack; would love access to some tympani. Anybody know of anything that wouldn’t cost an arm and a leg?

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[Nathan]

ORIGINAL: Scott

3. If you are in the U.S., Toontrack is running deals this month (August 2012)…$79.99 for EZD and $39.99 for EZXs.

http://toontrack.cmail1.com/t/ViewEmail/y/A97D64FF22C36139/445CC5655CB3E20A33C48669A65BFAC1

Sweetwater, AudioMIDI, Florida Music Co., et al are running the sales.

Except the “Pop” EZX for some reason. I went to buy it for the claves that are missing from the LP EZX and find it at full price…

Is there any way I can persuade you guys to add the claves as an update to LP please? (I’m presuming here that they were recorded in Mikael Emsing’s session) -I’m not really interested in the rest of the EZX

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[Nathan]

Dunno, doesn’t seem to be on the supplied Presets or the Peter Henderson add-on pack I downloaded. Might be on one of the Chris Pitman packs, but they only put two demo tracks on the site for each of his two C&V Producer Preset packs (and two of them are the same track).

Can’t help you here, TT seem to miss marketing opportunities quite often like this. Don’t worry fellas, we’re only customers -wasn’t like we were going to buy any stuff or anything

Getting info out of them about the PPs is like squeezing blood out of a stone. I think we’re expected to either guess or download them from a torrent to try before we buy Ooh, was that out loud?!!

It’s a fantastic product, but the information gaps leave me flummoxed sometimes

Edit: There’re oly two demos on the Miles McPherson PP page too, and neither sounds like, or like the drums on “Sidestick Ballad”…

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[Nathan]

Got to second Juicy on this. I bought a bunch of producer presets to see what the guys do to the drum and room sounds, and I’ve been impressed with the variety and range of results got out of basic original kit sounds.

Once you’ve got quality drum source sounds, it’s amazing how you can shape these kits; I thought I was pretty good at drum mixing, but I’ve learned much more, things I would not have thought of doing, things I didn’t really use aptly demonstrated.

So much is acheivable in the mix…

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[Nathan]

I agree about that open bell tone -it seems that the hat really is open too, wide open!

EZXs always are a bit of a compromise, the processing is already done and there are limited articulations compared to the SDX libraries. It’s a pity that the FM set wasn’t done as an SDX.

I wonder if we can persuade TT to release a hat or cymbal-biased SDX? Something with lots of brassware to add to other libraries.

I wonder if anyone has catalogued all the cymbals and hats in all the SDX/EXZs?

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[Nathan]

Going with what Juicy says, the only articulation Clyde seems to be missing compared to the majority of SDX libraries is Open5, so that’s not too bad.

I don’t have Roots, so I can’t comment on it, but Allaire has Open AND Open Tip 1 to 5 which the other SDXs (and EZXs) don’t seem to have. If Roots does have these articulations, then it would be a long shot to include them in the JM, as most SDXs don’t appear to have them (I haven’t compared MIDI 12&24, and MIDI 16&17 on the others yet to see).

Addendum: Hit factory does, and apparently the Evil Drums library has closed and open tip articulations (although ED only has up to Open4).

Trying to compare them directly is difficult as there is rather a mixed bag of HH articulations across the SDX range…

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[Nathan]

Have you tried turning it down?

Am I understanding you correctly here?

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[Nathan]

I haven’t got the Roots SDX, so I cant comment on that, but there are a wealth of other SDXs with a similarly large range of Hi-hat articulations, surely one of those could be added to your kit for this? Don’t forget that SDX libraries are largely unprocessed, whereas EZX libraries contain more finished sounds -so they may not stand up to the FM sounds, raw out the box.

What SDXs do you have? As an example of the articulations available, here is the Allaire HH list (quite representative of the others, looking through the mappings that I have). Maybe with a little processing, the hats could be X-Drummed in from another SDX?


119 [Hats] Bell Closed

065 [Hats] Seq Hits
064 [Hats] Seq Hits
063 [Hats] Tight Tip
062 [Hats] Tight Edge
061 [Hats] Closed Tip
060 [Hats] Open 5

056 [Hats] Bell Closed

046 [Hats] Open 2
044 [Hats] Closed Pedal
042 [Hats] Closed Tip
026 [Hats] Open 3
025 [Hats] Open 2
024 [Hats] Open 1
023 [Hats] Open Pedal
022 [Hats] Closed Edge
021 [Hats] Closed Pedal
020 [Hats] hatsBellTrig
019 [Hats] hatsTipTrig
018 [Hats] hatsTrig
017 [Hats] Open 4
016 [Hats] Open Tip 5
015 [Hats] Open Tip 4
014 [Hats] Open Tip 3
013 [Hats] Open Tip 2
012 [Hats] Open Tip 1
011 [Hats] Closed Tip
010 [Hats] Closed Pedal
009 [Hats] hatsBellTrig
008 [Hats] hatsTipTrig
007 [Hats] hatsTrig


I don’t mean to demean your request here, I have EZX libraries and I’d love TT to add articulations to them as updates if it were possible to go back to the session files (if those articulations were actually recorded), but there may be a way to find the articulations and the sounds you are looking for.

Edit: After having a good explore around my libraries and an extensive listen, I see what you mean about the FM hats, very nice crisp, tingy sounds, but limited articulations.

I looked around for comparable sounds, some of the C&V hats sound similar with some processing (compression to enhance punch, tik or clack, and EQ to pull out some boxiness and enhance the HH fundamental area, maybe some pitch adjustment…), but not quite there -they are very nice hat sounds as a benchmark.

I’d like to have listened to them in the room, and I’d like to hear something similar in an SDX.

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[Nathan]

Keeping it close to their chests as usual

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