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[myron]

I have also wished I had waited to purchase the SDX of some libraries, instead of the EZ version. I do however understand that the two version are menat for different customers: those who great drums with no fuss and those who want full control, so instead of looking at the EZ version as a “SDX lite” I remind myself of TT intent.

You can always hold off on the EZX version and wait and see if and SDX version follows. In the past the time between the two releases is significant. I waited for Roots SDX for over 2 years, after purchasing Jazz EZX. (it felt like that, anyway). By the time Roots SDX arrived Jazz EZX had made it’s money back! It was worth the wait because of the addition articulations and features.

Toontrack does an incredible job offering arguably the best Drum Software in the business. Their commitment to their customers and to making quality drums deserves applause.

Having said all that, I would also love to see more SDXs, namely Americana SDX!

@Toontrack: Break time is almost over… we want more drums!!!!!

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[myron]

ORIGINAL: Romanp

Yes I think my issue with the toontrack libraries is that to try and get a genuine funk, disco, reggae etc short decay, tight drum sounds we are expected to use amplitude envelopes, gates, transient designers.
Maybe some of my favourite records used gates to get the funky tight snare sounds. But I doubt it.
Having a Clyde Stubblefield kit that sounds nothing like our favourite recordings of him like ‘funky drummer’ is disappointing.
Jabos snare sounds closer.
I haven’t bought Superior Drummer or any Toontrack stuff yet. I love the idea of being able to sound like real drums from my Roland TD3KW. I will sometimes supplement a real acoustic hihat.
But from listening to the demos, I reckon there is still a big hole for the best most usable drum sounds for grooves that have shorter dampened snares etc.
Custom and vintage has some dampened snares.
I may be wrong, but I think a library with raw unprocessed but heavily and moderately dampened drums at a three different tunings is missing from the Toontrack sounds.
Go listen to James Browns ‘funky president’ or Johnny Osbournes ‘water pumping’ or most of the famous breakbeats.
All or mostly short punchy drums.
Maybe I am missing some tape saturation that I can add using my reel to reel. Or maybe I can get these sounds with envelopes and gates etc.
Go listen to Barry White and the love unlimited orchestra ‘Midnight an’
Edwin Starr ‘Easin In’
Cebu ‘The commodores’
The Boss by James Brown

They all have a punchy snare with no ringing sound.
Maybe there are some of these sounds already in the Toontrack sound library. But from my listening to all the demos, I reckon they should make a library that gets closer to the short punchy drum sounds than Custom and Vintage does.
Like 12 different snares all dampened and heavily dampened with 2 or 3 tunings. Probably dry would be best or dry with some room mics.

Johnny Osbournes

I have the Funkmaster EZX and I am able to get the “Funky Drummer” with little effort. For muted toms and damped snare sound you may want to listen to the Vintage Rock EZX.

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[myron]

(Time to give Trillion another look-see.) Very believable bass programming. Thanks.

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[myron]

Harry

Incredible guitar playing! Programming is great, too. What bass are you using?

Myron

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[myron]

Hi, check out http://www.oddgrooves.com/loop-shop/ Loops. They have some cool stuff, too.

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[myron]

How about a Yamaha Maple Absolute recorded by Amir ?estlove Thopmson!!!

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[myron]

Hey at this point, I’ll take Jazz Brunch (11am till 3pm Sunday) if I can get my hands on Jazz SDX

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[myron]

Seems the Electronic EZX has a wider range of sampled sources which may mean more sound possibilities, where as Hit EZX is more focused on the “proven” sound of a specific, notable producer and his sound approach.

I may get both once they’re on sale. (I’m saving my big money for the elusive Jazz SDX!)

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[myron]

ORIGINAL: Martinooo29
I do not want to be slagging anyone but I think Toontrack is not doing enough to create the new samples libraries. If not the engine I would go with BFD where you can get most of Platinum Samples and tons of other libraries. I think that a good idea is to realise just a single drum kits or single instruments. WE NEED MORE SOUNDS!!! We know that the engine is the best on the market but samples wise you could do better guys. Come on I believe in you.

Well, that’s just not true. Toontrack has been expanding their drum sample “locker” at a very reasonable rate, especially considering their philosophy to create a full drum recording environment, including “studio room ambience” excuse me, “highly sought after major studio room environments!” Also the fact that each library has had a major contribution from highly respected artist, engineers and producers. This is not just a few “dudes” sitting around recording the kit in their closet.

In my opinion, Toontrack has and continues to carefully produce and market their products in a very thoughtful manner. I do admit that I have had my moments of impatience. I wanted the Jazz SDX to come out, very badly. But after watching the timely release of the other products, like Beatstaion and EZmix, plus presets and midi packs, I realize that they are working hard to deliver great stuff.

I figure that the economy also plays a big part in the release of new products. If people aren’t buying that could cramp development, production and marketing of new stuff.

ANyway, keep your head on. Don’t jump ship. Let’s see what’s in store for April!

Myron

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[myron]

Ok here’s a snippet of the tune “http://soundcloud.com/myronzmusic/i-dream-of-jeannie” I used C&V kit pieces, as godprobe listed. I also used the cymbals and ride that were labled “60s.” I haven’t processed the drums yet.

I am looking for more “ring” to the drums, especially a more open kick and snare.

What do you think?

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[myron]

What kit pieces are you using for your Tight Modern Kit?

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[myron]

You have typed “samples” but you mean midi content.
It appears Futureman did not provide any midi content for this EZX. Maybe it will be included in the full SDX version.

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[myron]

I don’t recall any announcement of any other release dates. Did I miss something? I know there are things in the works, but did TT mention new releases scheduled for December?

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