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[Miroslav]

Yeah…it was awhile between updates…but I just bought and installed 3 new SDX packs, and that was really what prompted my version update, otherwise I wouldn’t have bothered because I was not having any issues with the older version.
I can’t go back to 3.2.8…and still use the newer SDX packs I purchased.

Thanks though for suggesting I save a new Default without the MIDI column…I can live with that.
I kept looking at preferences, hoping there was something there to let me remove the MIDI column more permanently.
TBH…there are at least 3 other columns with rather minimally useful if not useless information…I can’t recall the names now…I just know I always turn them off when I go to the Grooves page.

Honestly…when you look at the MIDI column…with all the little dots…is that REALLY of any use to anyone? LOL!
It just seems like a nice idea…but visually it has zero value AFA disclosing any real information.

Please ask the developers to please fix the Pan sliders, and add direct numeric  value input for a version update.
Those sliders are just an awful way to work panning, and I need to edit the panning in ALL the packs very often, to make them work for my drum tracks in mixes.
SD3 is supposed to be a pro drum app…those sliders are like something for kids to play with.

Thanks

• This post was modified 7 months, 3 weeks ago by Miroslav.

[Miroslav]

@Glenn Stanton, post #3259691…Your explanation may be valid…it’s still pretty lame that a company that sells product and makes a good profit off it…but is too cheap to provide sister download sites worldwide, and better speeds to service customers quicker.
So no matter where you are, you have wait for downloads to hop through endless connections before they get to you…or they have intentionally chosen not to pay more to provide better speeds…both “excuses” are unacceptable.

I bought 3 SDX packs…and it’s going to take me 3 days to download them…like WTF, Toontrack!?!?
I’ve got hundreds of Mbps download speed from my network provider, for which I pay…but Toontrack only pays for us to get 2-3 Mbps.
How truly cheap and lame.

Considering that others have complained various times about this…I’m sure my complaint will fall on deaf ears too.
I love the products, but Toontrack constantly seem to not care about this kinds of stuff, and all they worry about is their profit margin.

• This post was modified 9 months, 3 weeks ago by Miroslav.

[Miroslav]

Two years later…and my request for Orchestral SDX came through!

Now…if they would price it more reasonably and LESS then what I paid for the entire SD3 application…that would be nice. 🙂

[Miroslav]

I’ve suggested an orchestral sample pack a couple of times in years past…glad to see someone listened! 🙂

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[Miroslav]

Michael wrote:

I just prefer the way it sounds from the drummers perspective.

When you listen to music…how do you know if the drummer is a righty or a lefty…?
That  would completely change the whole drummer/audience perspective debate.

• This post was modified 6 years, 10 months ago by Miroslav.

[Miroslav]

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• This post was modified 6 years, 10 months ago by Miroslav.

[Miroslav]

OK…I think I get what is being said.
So the MSI files were full products…not “updates” that come as EXE files…?

I guess what was confusing is that not too long ago, I saw an *update* for the Grand Piano, and based on it’s date stamp shown on downloads webpage, I realized it was newer than what I already had. So I downloaded it and installed it OVER my existing Grand Piano.
No problem.

Then just recently, I saw the entire Keys line had newer versions on the downloads page than what I already had, based on the file time stamps (I think they were added around the start of May) …so I assumed they were all new *updates*.
I downloaded and SAW were MSI instead of EXE files, and THEY needed the old versions first removed…which made me think you guys changed something.
It was confusing because they had been recently added (start of May)…and I simply thought they were new *updates*….but they were just updated versions of the full product, not patch updates.

I understand now.
Thanks

[Miroslav]

@Rogue said:
I hope this clarifies.  

I’m really not sure what you are saying above.

Again…you seem to be suggesting I use Prodcut Manager…but again…my DAW is always run OFFLINE…which doesn’t work with directly installing after downloading with Product Manager.

So again…can you provide installers for EZKeys (like you do with the SD3 and EZ2) that will install OVER the existing version?

Better yet, please explain your specific, step-by-step process for installing the EZKeys updates on *offline DAWs* that is the simplest and will guarantee all is up to date.

[Miroslav]

I’ll use the Product Manager for the downloads…BUT…I run my DAW offline, so I’m not installing directly from the Product Manager.
Please keep that in mind…that not everyone runs their DAWs online.

All my updates for SD and sample packs and other things come with EXE files that work fine for installation…same as your previous EZKeys updates…to install automatically over the existing, older versions.
The EZKeys MSI files don’t….they require that old version first be removed.”
It’s not a serious problem to do that, but it makes the whole process more of a PITA, and also leaves you wondering if any previous work will be affected since you are removing a sample pack.
Not sure why things changed with the recent EZKeys updates from EXE to MSI installers.

[Miroslav]

Copy…Paste.
That’s about as easy as it gets.

Then you open SD2 and SD3 settings, and re-point/remap each SDX entry to the new location.

[Miroslav]

TBH…if you guys want more editing options…SD3 already has them.

I think for there to be an EZD3 version that is still simpler to use than SD3, but that it has SD3-like capability…is somewhat of a contradiction.

I think people who want more editing should just bite the bullet and move over to SD3…and you will never look back at EZD once you’ve gotten a bit comfortable with SD3.
You don’t need to dive into ALL the options of SD3 at once. It will do all of what EZD does right out of the box…and then you can dig deeper into SD3 at your own pace.
IMO…EZD is really just a stepping-stone to SD…and for those folks who simply don’t want to go deeper, they just stay with EZD.

[Miroslav]

Not sure if you’re kidding… …but it would be nice if they fixed the Cocktail update like all the other packs.
Actually, they need to just provide an update…as it is, the last update for the Cocktail kit was from 2014, so no surprise it’s not working with SD3.

If they are not going to…I would like to at least know so I can remove it altogether from SD3.

[Miroslav]

It’s a nice thought…but every time someone tries to make a be-all DAW…it usually sucks….plus, you then have no options, either you use it all or you move to something else.

I like that Toontrack is mainly focused on the drums. I know they also have EZKeys…but it’s not anything like SD2 or SD3 on the drum side.
I EZKeys is more like EZDrummer…a nice song starter setup, but that’s it.

Anyway, I just think the drum stuff will do better if Toontrack sticks with them primarily.
Heck..there’s already dozens and dozens of DAW options out there.

[Miroslav]

Exactly…you have to download all the updates for all the SDX packs and install them for them to work on SD3.

The only SDX update that I had issue with (and I think the devs are aware of it) is the “Custom & Vintage” pack. The update doesn’t work…it won’t run correctly…but once you unzip it, you can manually copy over the contents of the update, and replace the old C&V folder contents on your computer….and that worked.
There’s a thread about the issue with the C&V update describing the workaround..etc.

[Miroslav]

You can also create your own “User MIDI” folder in the main MIDI directory…and you will see it right above the one that’s in SD3 by default.
Then you can select the SD3 “User MIDI” and just exclude it…not use it.

I think that will work for you.

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