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[Mark Williams]

ORIGINAL: fcarosone

I have an indian tabla (real) player at hand, one sunday I recorded him while he played slow, and then I copied its work playing my pc keyboard with my sampled instr while listening to the record and saved as midi, little by little. It’s a pain!

I like the idea of an Indian EZX. I think it could be really cool to have some great tabla. Maybe this could actually be done as a “World Percussion” EZX, so as to incorporate other rhythm instruments that otherwise wouldn’t make it into an EZX.

But I also want to address what you mention from the quote I took above.
Wow, man. There are way easier methods to accomplish what I think you were trying to accomplish. If you need to take audio and turn it into a MIDI performance (even a multi-layered one) there are some pretty decent tools out there to do that. Toontrack’s “Drumtracker” is one of them.

It may be that I’ve misunderstood what you were trying to do, though.

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[Mark Williams]

Whoops. I didn’t think about how that would come off!

I just mean that for the style I produce, The Andy Johns or Jim Scott packs would be more appropriate. I’m sure there’s a big market for the Joe Barresi or Platinum wouldn’t have started there.
It’s funny, actually. I was looking at the product page for Evil Drums, and I realized that I’m not sure I’ve ever listened to a single one of the artists listed on Joe’s credits! Given their high-profile, I’m convinced that Joe is amazingly talented, and listening to the demos on the TT page definitely has piqued my interest. I’m thinking the SDX could be far more versatile than I would have initially thought, with a name like “Evil Drums”.

Any thoughts on that? Will it work in a lot more styles than it initially appears? Or than it seems to be marketed towards?

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[Mark Williams]

resurrecting this thread to say another +1 here.
I would love, love, love to see some more Platinum Samples SDX packs. Especially Jim Scott. And Andy Johns.
I wish they would have started with those packs instead of Joe Barresi, personally.

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[Mark Williams]

rats.

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[Mark Williams]

ORIGINAL: Whitten
…can you imagine a record made with a bass drum sampled in 2005 at Avatar, with a snare sampled in 2007 in Sweden, room mics from 2008 in Nashville and toms from 2010 in London. Talk about dog’s breakfast.

Hmm, did you spill the beans on something here, Chris, or was this just for the sake of argument? A 2010 recording date in London?
Sounds very, very interesting!

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[Mark Williams]

ORIGINAL: jscomposer
As it is, I use X drums to put 1 or 2 MF instruments into the Avatar room.

But of course, you’re not really putting that drum from TMF into the Avatar room. You’re “faking” it as best is possible, but the room ambiences are not the same, really. Sometimes you can get away with it and it’s not a problem at all, especially in a dense mix, but if one were trying to truly build a total kit from the ground up with each piece coming from a different pack, and hence, room, it would truly be a sonic nightmare.

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[Mark Williams]

Rogue said the 64-bit version for Mac would be hitting by the end of the month, so the ‘memory server’ route should be unnecessary.

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[Mark Williams]

Your question also touches on an issue that comes up from time to time around here.

At least up until this point, Toontrack has chosen to release packages that are based on a realistic recording date. Meaning, the kit is set up in the room, miced very carefully using specific mics and preamps, and then painstakingly sampled. Then they switched out specific kit elements and did the process again. i.e. a different snare drum or cymbal. The way they’ve gone about this has made for ultra-realistic sounds. If you were to, for example, record a bunch of different cymbals in some other (unrelated) room, the realistic factor would go down, since the kit pieces would then be played in different rooms.

The main way around this is using X-Drums, of course, to incorporate kit pieces from other expansion packs. So perhaps TT will do as you suggest in the future, but for now, this has been their operating methodology.

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[Mark Williams]

Yeah, I hear what you’re saying about getting SD to stop/start when you press ‘play/stop’ in Logic. It’s not a huge deal for me, since you can just right-click on the groove (in the groove browser) that you want and it will start/stop the groove. So in your example, you could loop your guitar part and audition grooves to go with it in the groove browser of SD by right-clicking on the groove name, or even the groove part you want to hear. This is how I work all the time…

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[Mark Williams]

ORIGINAL: TimeBridge

well, to buy an SDX “just” for the cymbals seems a bit too much for me, but thanks anyway for the quick response 

well, there are a lot of great things in the C&V package besides the cymbals, though the cymbals are just incredible, IMO.

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[Mark Williams]

ORIGINAL: Looney_Tooner

ORIGINAL: drapostrophex
…, I’d have been better off spending that $20 on beer.

hmmmm, beer…

the thing is, for beer I also have just one input channel.
It does work well in 64bit though.

nice!

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[Mark Williams]

and don’t be afraid to use brushes instead of sticks if it’s not a power ballad.

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[Mark Williams]

Search through these forums and you’ll find lots of comments on the different expansion packs. There was a recent thread about what everyone’s favorite SDX was. It was a good thread, and would probably be helpful to you. Personally, I prefer ponying up for the SDXs over the EZXs, but that’s me. Depending on your style of music, the NY Vol.2, C&V, or the new Music City SDX could all be good options. I haven’t used the Music CIty yet, but everyone around here seems to love it, so I’ll probably pick it up when it’s on sale someday. The kits and rooms are all pretty different, so there’s not a ton of overlap, in my opinion.

Anyways, welcome to the community! We’re always happy to have more voices around here.

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[Mark Williams]

Yes, and it all works wonderfully!
I bought it over the weekend, and the transaction was perfect. It’s a digital delivery, so AudioMidi just sends the license number in an email right after you place your order. The whole thing took just a few minutes, and then I was up and registered with Toontrack and good to go. Excellent.

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