Lee Shapiro
Participant
Topics Started: 14
Replies Created: 48
Has Thanked: 7
Been Thanked: 6
You mention worrying about too much “downtime”…. Just the process of reformating a hard drive and reinstalling all your software, is a LOT of downtime in itself. While you are doing all that, it would probably take LESS TIME to email Toontrack and get your authorizations reset. And as Olof pointed out, reformating a hard drive doesn’t change your computer ID, so re-authorizations are unnecessary.
That’s a tough field to break into, even for Toontrack. Especially lately when there are so many excellent choices already to choose from.
IK Multimedia just released B-3X, which has gotten rave reviews, and is the only B3 emulator approved by Hammond corporation.
Then there’s GG Audio’s Blue 3 (my personal favorite, and my go-to Hammond/Leslie emulator)
GSi VB3-II, although I think version one sounds better.
Arturia’s B-3V and AIR’s DB-33 both are decent as well.
Along with some older emulators, that still are many user’s favorites:
Native Instruments B4-II, which was one of the first emulators to really capture that Hammond/ Leslie sound. Unfortunately NI made the poor decision to discontinue that plugin and released Vintage Organs, which is a big step down from the B4-II
Prices vary, but for $100, you really can’t go wrong with Blue 3.
(Just my opinions, and personal favorites. I’m not affiliated with any of these companies)
And if Toontrack can create something that can compete with some of these excellent plugins, well then more power to them. So far everything Toontrack has produced has been in a winner in my book.
1
Thanked by: JavaJeffToontrack already responded in another recent post. Still scheduled for release in Q4 2019 (October, November, or December)
What about the last library “Additional Bleed”? I have all the other libraries installed and I can definitely make use of the additional room mics, I can really hear the difference adding them into a stereo mix. But how noticeable would the Additional Bleed library be? How essential is it for the overall sound?
I realize that the goal in recording these drums was for 100% accuracy in a real life recording studio setup, but if it comes down to 100% accuracy vs. space on my hard drive, would I really be missing much by not installing that library?
Thanks!
@3finker said:
Hi,
Try Native Vintage Organs for the best B3 sound.
I respectfully disagree. Native Instruments blew it when they replaced B4 II with Vintage Organs. The Hammond sound is MUCH better in B4 II.
But now we have VB-3 and the new Blue3, which are even better than B4 II.
But I would be interested in seeing what Toontrack comes up with if they made a Hammond Organ emulator for their EZKeys line.
Seeing how they did such a great job with Superior Drummer 3, I’d hope to see the same meticulous work go into a Hammond B3 emulator.
@John said:
Hi William,I have sent you an email.
BR,
John
Hi John, if there’s any way that I can get a faster download, I’d appreciate some help too.
I’ve been downloading since yesterday morning non-stop, and I’m still only halfway through Part TWO!
Thanks for any help you can offer,
Lee
It’s interesting to read the various comparisons of download speeds and how long it takes people to download a single library.
Now, please don’t think I’m trying to boast or rub your noses in the fact that my downloads seem to be going faster than yours. (I’m sure there are many people who are getting much faster speeds than me….or at least I’d HOPE so)
The thing I find interesting is that many of you say you have ultra fast download speeds (normally) and yet it’s taking days to download just one library.
While me, on the other hand, have always had a normally slow service (because I live out in the boondocks) I’m suppose to get 10MB/s, but whenever I do a Speed Test, the highest I ever get is around 7Mbps. But when downloading actual files, the highest I usually get is 900Kbps (that’s Kilobytes, not Megabytes per second). Awfully slow compared to the rest of the world and only 1/10 of the speed I’m SUPPOSED to be getting.
And yet my download speed is maintaining that 900Kbps during these SD3 downloads. And I’m reading that some people with much faster connections are only getting half that speed. There’s got to be a reason for that. There’s too many of you for it to be merely a coincidence. I think either Toontrack servers or your ISP are throttling back the speeds due to the amount of traffic and/or the size of the files. (I’m just guessing here)
For those of you getting really slow speeds, does the download speed fluctuate from fast to slow? Or are you generally getting one slow constant speed?
If it fluctuates, have you tried pausing the download for a few seconds and restarting it again. I’ve heard that will bring up the speed, at least for a while (in some cases).
I hope Toontrack might be able to do something to speed up the downloads. They were having problems, but said they’d be fixed by now. I haven’t heard anything new since their last announcement on Sept 14 on Facebook.
As many of the intro videos mention, you don’t neeed to have 11.1 surround sound to utilize the extra mics. Just think of them as extra room ambient mics. I’ve heard the differences of each mic, solo and in combination of other mics. And with the right amount of mixing of all those mics, you can come up with some great sounding live drums.
Or even studio drums with a fatter sound.
My recommendation would be is to download at least parts 1 and 2, and if you have the room add part 3 (the surround mics). Personally, I hate dry sounding studio drums. I always add a little reverb or delay for that live sound. But with these surround mics, I don’t think I’ll need to add any extra effects. I’ll be getting a very NATURAL live drum sound, without the artificial addition of efx. But that’s just my preference. The bottom line is, you can just get by with the first two Parts, the basic sound Library and the room mics library. I don’t even really bother with bleed so much because in the mix, you really can’t hear bleeds. Just my 2 cents.
1
Thanked by: mickmeanieNo products in the cart.
Get all the latest on new releases,
updates and offers directly to your inbox.
Note: By clicking the 'I WANT IN' button, you will not be creating a Toontrack user account. You will only sign up to get our newsletters, offers and promotions to your inbox. You can unsubscribe at any time from a link at the bottom of each email. If you want to learn more about our privacy policy, please find detailed information here.