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  • jestermgee
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    Yeah, on the website I linked there is a contact form or just question over on the NI forum where I am there also, discussing the new P3 currently with others
    https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/13387/maschine-plus-upgrades-ableton-push-3-released/p3

    jestermgee
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    I provide NKS support for MANY instruments here:

    https://freelancesoundlabs.com/nks

    As mentioned I ahve EZD and it’s completely possible to make NKS (without lightguide) however for EZD and SD it’s not all that “useful” because if you use Masdchine these do not integrate as “kits” they use the note mode and in KK you use a keyboard.

    Personally I use Push for sequencing drums so have custom drum racks I created for these. I also use to offer browsing libraries for Push but stopped since I use Komplete Kontrol now for browsing instruments but I get asked a LOT for it and now with Push 3 being released I may look into creating some new libraries for Push again and if the demand is there I may even look at investing in more of the TT kits and such, just wish they weren’t so expensive.

    For comparison, I have done NKS for XLN Audio Addictive Drums 2
    https://freelancesoundlabs.com/index.php/downloads/komplete-kontrol-vst-packs/item/296-xln-audio-addictive-drums-2-nks-library-for-komplete-kontrol-maschine

    Feedback has been good with this one and works well, basically the same as Toon Tracks but I had support from the dev allowing me to develop that one so I suggest to new users wanting nice acoustic kits with NKs support to consider that as an option instead. Maybe one day I will look into TT again but it’s just so expensive when I ahve no actual need for it other than to make NKS.

    jestermgee
    Participant

    Well, some companies jumped on-board at the very beginning (like Arturia) prob because they were well sold on the idea. I ahve been developing NKS support for close to 10 years now for hundreds of products and know the work involved, which is nothing compared to the additional steps required to have NI approve everything too. I have spoken with countless developers (even TT diirectly) and NKS has taken on officially hardly any developers. I persoinally have more unofficial support for NKS than there is official support, including NIs own instruments.

    So, of course any dev could add it but for it to be proper integration TT need to add code into their plugins directly and then take on updating and supporting NKS libraries for such a small userbase asking for it.

    I could develop NKS support (without lightguide) but the cost of all the expansions is too prohibitive for me to invest in for the same reason, I only own EZD and a few kits and TT have basically expressed their “thanks but no thanks” when I have inquired about developing NKS support. We can still dream but NKS has been out for close to 10 years and they wont even comment on it in their forums, seems it’s not something they value.

    jestermgee
    Participant

    Unlikely they will ever add NKS support, it’s just not a big enough market to justify the huge amount of additional time needed to add support.

    jestermgee
    Participant

    Perhaps you could pre-sell an NKS template for Superior Drummer 3 and when you get enough pre orders you could purchase the software and make the template. I for one would  be willing to make the  investment and between this site and the Native Instruments forum you could  drum up enough interest to get it done. Who knows, might be a new  business model.

    Yeah I have considered this in the past but it’s a tough call. For a start, it’s hard to manage because I probably don’t charge enough to realistically make my money back in some cases. Just for example, SD3 with 2 expansions in AUD (where we have a pretty bad exchange at the moment) is a rather hefty $815 and if you consider for the amount I get per NKS library is just $12 that would require a minimum of 68 people to simply break even. Now maybe 4 years ago this could have been possible but currently, the number of people I have purchasing libraries is way down and I doubt I would get that many people even in a 6 month period. So then the issue would be refunding all those that invested if I am not able to get the numbers. the next thing is time, I need a lot of time to figure it out, if it is even possible.

    I did experiment with EZDrummer and that works ok, keep in mind no way to change kit pieces from the keyboard tho, but now EZD4 is out and I am not updating so based on the lack of any reply from TT it is unlikely I will be adding NKS to their products so if it’s something you guys need in a product, maybe check out XLN Audio which have kindly worked with me to make both XO and Addictive Drums 2 NKS accessible and it has really helped out the visually impaired community get into drums

    • This post was modified 2 years, 7 months ago by jestermgee.
    jestermgee
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    I did reach out but no reply which is sometimes the case. I’ve been asked a number of times but crunching numbers, the process would be too expensive for me to invest in all the content myself, I only have EZDrummer and a few kits with no real need personally for anything more. Would be more than willing to look at adding NKS if someone were to get back to me but unless this occurs or they add official NKS then unlikely it will be added at all.

    jestermgee
    Participant

    Jason from freelancesoundlabs.com here, just made aware of this thread.

    I would like to state that I am more than happy to tackle adding NKS for these, wouldn’t be too hard, but I only own EZDrummer and a few kits, for my personal needs Superior Drummer is a bit overkill and cost prohibitive for me to invest in purely for adding NKS support but would be more than happy if the developers would like to contact me and arrange maybe an NFR copy which I could then process. I do get asked for SD, EZKeys and EZBass often but simply cannot afford to invest myself.

    Keep in mind tho there would be no lightguide data as that is a requirement to be directly coded into the plugin, cannot be handled by NKS presets but mapping and preset management all possible.

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