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[Jay Coover]

I’m not sure how this is selling for you guys. It would be difficult to imagine this one being as widely successfully as the drum stuff.

My guess is it’s most useful for guitar playing songwriters who can’t do their own piano parts.

That would be me.

Keep it coming. This is already something really unique that only Toontrack has, and has plenty of room for improvement and expansion.

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[Jay Coover]

I wouldn’t mind a C&V 2 either, though C&V is very deep on its own. For C&V 2 I’d go really vintage and nail the sound of the 50’s and 60’s down to the recording nuances. Motown, Memphis, early Abbey Road.

C&V by nature doesn’t sound as modern as Avatar, Allaire, or Hit Factory, nor should it, though with some proper drum selection, compression and mixing it can certainly be brought into the 80’s and 90’s. You just can’t as easily take it backwards in time.

In my estimation taking it back towards 1960 involves some fairly radical EQ kung fu and adding some saturation in a way that Superior is not capable of. I must admit though that a lot of my failures in getting an older sound on a modern recording have less to do with not having the right drum sample set and more to do with nearly everything else.

One challenge may be that an engineer might not want to carve out the kick sample like one would sound in 1960, for instance. A user can’t add that back in later. Better maybe to record them well and provide proper presets for the era. Or do you just go authentic and that’s what you get?

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[Jay Coover]

Hehe…I think C&V can work just fine for American rock, Indie stuff…and really, look where all those drums came from. Never mind the drummer, engineer, and recording studio.

It’s really non-denominational in sound. I don’t hear the same small room as Americana or Claustrophobic. Do you disagree?

I guess you were there, and all other things being equal, your credentials trump mine 🙂

I’m just saying that between Music City and C & V, there may not be an immediate need for an Americana-type SDX. I’m looking at room elsewhere for things that haven’t been covered, so an Ethnic SDX comes to mind. I’m in.

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[Jay Coover]

My wish list for the next version of Superior:

[*] A tape/tube saturation emulation insert
[*] A convolution reverb insert
[*] The ability to filter/search on MIDI grooves
[*] A better way to alter velocity of a MIDI groove than a simple knob. Should be able to focus on specific pieces (e.g. hihat) and also, bring bottom velocities up or down while keeping top velocities stationary (expansion), and move top velocities down or up while keeping bottom velocities stationary (compression). Also should be able to do a gradient change across time, for instance gradually increase volume towards the end. Should also include a simple reset to set all velocity offsets back to 0.
[*] Incorporate the EZPlayer stuff (tracks, format conversion) directly into Superior. Also, when I have a set of tracks from different MIDI grooves, I shouldn’t have to then record them to some other track in the plug-in, I should be able to drag my collection of tracks into the host as one.

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[Jay Coover]

Just my opinion – Apple programs are no good on PC. Not any one of them. Go with an alternative.

In fact they behave like a virus. Once you have one, it will mercilessly keep bugging you to install all the others. Quicktime will take over your file preferences and never give them back, sometimes even if you jump through all the hoops that you think you need in order to re-assign them. The latter may be a crappy Windows behavior one could argue, but the fact that it’s so difficult to prevent QT from taking them over in the first place is not a great sign.

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[Jay Coover]

I haven’t seen support comment on feature suggestions before, so would not expect to see it here. Same with future releases, updates, etc.

Seems to be a Toontrack policy.

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[Jay Coover]

Is that an add-on to Halion? Couldn’t find that patch in the factory sounds – http://www.steinberg.net/fileadmin/redaktion/2010_Relaunch/Products/VST/HALion_Sonic/pdf/HALion_Sonic_-_Sound_Listing_-_1.5.pdf

Got me interested. I’m a Cubase user, perhaps you are as well, but I typically use Kontakt for my sampler needs.

Also, while we’re being http://www.thefreedictionary.com/onomatopoeic, I hear the snare you have now as more of a crack, where I’d rather hear more of a thump. Think Elton John snare, perhaps more modern though.

Thanks,
fizbin

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[Jay Coover]

Sounds like you’re on to something there 😉

What’s the source of the strings? Sound fantastic.

I might warm up the snare a tad, or pick another one for a ballad, but overall extremely well done.

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[Jay Coover]

Looking forward to EZKeys 1.1, 1.5, whatever we can get!

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[Jay Coover]

Usually I think it only matters if you’re clipping your master buss. One solution, yeah, as planetnine says, turn the output down from Superior.

Are you seeing actual clipped peaks in a wav file, or just going into the red on the Superior output in your host?

Maybe put a limiter or compressor on the SD out to help. I usually do anyway unless the preset is compressed heavily already.

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[Jay Coover]

Would like to see a saturation emulation plug-in as well as a reverb added to the SD effects.

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