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  • JamesAP
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    Ok so having pissed around more with this application and the Roland TD 17 drum module I noticed something.  For every single pad on the roland drum module the note velocity ranges from on average : 0 to 80, it never reaches 127, unless you mess around with sensitivity settings.  And the standard velocity curve is set to linear, same as SD3.

    So to fix the low sound problem in SD3, go to the midi editing page, trigger a pad on your kit, and instead of modifying the velocity curve directly, instead drag the right hand 3 little dots to the left which will basically decrease the the note range similar to the module, drag it to around 89. The linear velocity curve in SD3 will compress and you will end up with a correct sound when hitting your drum pads.

    You will have to do this for each pad. If you are still not satisfied with the volume of each pad, drag the slider more to the left, compress the range according to your needs. I have included a screenshot to show you what I mean.

    Once you have edited all the pads, save your preset, and just load it each time you load the software. No more low sound crap.

    Laborious I know, but worth the effort in the long run.

     

    JamesAP
    Participant

    Having anaylsed more closely, and looking at the note velocity coming from the drum module, the velocities being registered in SD3 seem to be exactly the same.

    The problem actually lies in the direct translation of those of note velocities to note volume.

    Now I must ask the question to SD3 Developers here, what is the point of having Roland Midi Kit presets if you do not adjust the velocity to note volume ratio accordingly ?

    It would appear the only thing you coded in the Roland Midi Kit presets is the midi note mappings, that’s about it.

    This is what needs to be adjusted.

    So unfortunately the only workaround is to adjust the velocity curve within SD3 per god damn pad and cymbal, a laborious task, but unfortunately the only solution.

     

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    JamesAP
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    I have to say their seems to be a lot of confusion in this thread and mixed up stories. 

    The main issue being complained about is due to the Midi velocity from the drum module not registering the same value in the Superior Drummer 3 software.  I just bought this software, I have a TD17KVX and have the exact same problem, doesn’t matter what roland present you choose to use.

    The issue has absolutely nothing to do with Audio Gain settings whatsoever.  All you are doing buy modifying audio gain settings is just cranking up the volume so loud to hear a barely audible output from SD3, if you were to play a song on your PC via youtube or spotify for example at the same time, you’d blow your god damn ears off. 

    And this only applies to when you have your headphones connected directly to the module, this obviously has no effect if you have your headphones plugged into an audio interface being used as your audio output.

    The exact some rule applies, if you increase your audio interface headphone out a ludicrous amount, you can begin to hear some correct sound coming from SD3, but again play a youtube video at the same time and again you will become instantly deaf.

    I don’t care what SD3 support has to say about this issue, this is clearly not normal.  And they need to understand it and fix it, SD3 should not tranlsate midi note velocity, it should receive the velocity exactly as it is outputted from the drum module or from any midi controller source. 

    • This post was modified 3 years, 2 months ago by JamesAP.
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