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Guitar (or Piano) and vocals is always first for me. Drums come later in order to build in clearer accents and syncopation. But if the melody and chord progression isn’t interesting all on it’s own, it’s probably not very good. Bass guitar is the last instrument, but in a lot of ways is the glue to keep it all together. It’s the bridge between the drums rhythm and the other instruments melody. Last but not least in other words. Final vocal tracks are actually the last thing to be recorded, though a scratch vocal may or may not have been recorded after the guitars.

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ORIGINAL: sunmachine

I was very excited about the new EZMix version, but now I’m thinking of NOT buying the version 2 upgrade given the fact that I won’t buy any expansion packs at that price level.

It’s a tough spot to be in. As bothered as I am about the new expansion prices and EZmix 1 expansion price increases, I still think the $49 upgrade to EZmix 2 is worth it. To be fair, it was a BETTER buy when the promise of future expansions at a fair price was a possibility. But now it looks like a lot of people will have to accept EZmix 2 as it is if they don’t feel like being gouged for expansions.

I’m still very happy that I upgraded to EZmix 2. And though I won’t touch any $49 EZmix expansion with a ten foot pole, I’m still finding EZmix 2 very useful.

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ORIGINAL: gmontano

At the very least, Toontrack could have/should have said that pricing for all packs is increasing on March 1, etc. This really stinks of someone in sales/marketing coming up with an idea to blindside loyal users who just upgraded.

I agree. With the EZmix 2 upgrade, we had warning. So those that wanted to buy EZmix 1 at the time, knowing the upgrade price was only $49, they could do it, thereby saving a little money to get to EZmix 2. I did exactly that.

But this really was blindsiding. I just invested in yet another Toontrack Product, and now I’m held hostage in matter of speaking. I’m not able to expand or improve on my investment without dropping $49 at a time, on preset packs that I really don’t know if I’ll benefit from (until I get to hear them and use them on my sources).

And what happens to those people that decided that EZmix 1 was plenty for them. Now their expansions all cost near what they payed for the plugin in the first place.

This thing really has me heated. I think it’s mostly disappointment, as Toontrack usually does the right thing. I just never expected this sort of thing from them.

I realize that the producers behind some of these packs are legitimate music industry names, but at the end of the day, they really are JUST a set of presets. You’re not buying any program code, you’re not buying an executable program, you are buying some data parameters to feed into software that you’ve already purchased. I think the prices really need to reflect this reality. In my eyes, $29 was already a little steep. I feel $19 for the older preset packs and $29 for the new ones is a much more reasonable price point. And I would bet that the actually profit that comes in at those price points would be greater than it’ll be at the current prices, because they will likely sell more than twice as much. If the preset packs were priced at $19/$29, I’d pick up at least 3 or 4 of them today. But at $49, I’m walking away.

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Just use any of the non-amp sim presets. I’m not sure I see what you’re trying to do. The amp sim presets ARE amp sim presets. There’s plenty of non-sim presets for guitar, and in any case, any of the general presets for compression, eq, reverb, delay, could work great on guitar. Are there some amp sim presets in particular that you really like the reverb/delay settings on or something like that?

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ORIGINAL: ChazC
What I will add to that though is that the upgrade to 2 was worth it – I have no problems with EZMix2 as a plug in, the new amp sims sound great & it’s still a go to plugin when I need something in a hurry – it’s just your policy with the add-ons which is off the mark I’m afraid.

Exactly how I feel. I love EZmix 2. I’ve been using it more and more. I’m just extremely disappointed in the new price point for the newer packs, and I’m just absolutely dumbfounded at them raising the prices on the old ones. I honestly wouldn’t be shocked if someone just made a mistake on the pricing when updating the website. Because it’s that shocking to me.

And as you said, regarding the old price point… $29 was risky to me. So much so that I hesitated to buy any of them. After some reading, I was actually about to come around and pick up the Chuck Ainlay pack. But for $49?! Not a chance. I’m DONE with EZmix (in as far as buying ANY additional content) until they rethink the expansion prices. At the very least, bring them back where they were. They stay at $49 and forget about it. I’m fine with what it comes with stock.

That email they sent out did just make it hurt more. Because the wording was so appreciative, thanks for your support, and jumping right on the EZmix train and all that, and then BAM, new pack is 50 bucks, and by the way, in case you never got around to picking up any of the other expansion packs, they are also 50 bucks now too! Thanks for your support! *sigh*

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They DID jack up the prices on all the EZmix 1 packs. Not pleased with that move at all.

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In regards to refresh I was talking about whatever it was that was going to come out today. Glad to see the expansions for EZmix 2 have already started rolling out. Little pricey (IMO), but Toontrack sure never just kicks back. Always something new in the kitchen.

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ORIGINAL: Stuntnut

You’ve got me curious now too!

I keep hitting refresh on the home page. lol. haven’t seen anything yet though.

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I already love this thread.

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The tuner in Studio One happens to be great. I stick one on each of the input channels that I plug guitars into, so during a session, it’s always there, I just keep the Inputs section of the mixer open on my 2nd screen and the Tuner preview expanded. So I just keep tuning on the fly without opening any plugin or extra window.

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Very helpful stuff. Thanks for taking the time to share your settings. It’s a huge benefit to others. Good to see people giving back to the community!

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Nice sounding stuff. Metal Machine is definitely on my list, but I’m holding out for a sale. I’m cheap and poor. Bad combination. lol.

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There was a couple days overlap after EZmix 2 was released that you could still get EZmix 1. Sweetwater had it for a day. Audiomidi had it for a couple days, but the window has closed my friend.

EZmix 2 is awesome though. Don’t hesitate to pick it up. If you by some chance were inquiring about picking up EZmix 1 in order to qualify for the EZmix 2 upgrade price, shop around. You may be able to pick up EZmix 2 for no more than you would have paid for v1 plus the upgrade.

Did I mention how awesome EZmix 2 is? Oh, right, I did.

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