[ian nickus]

just wanted to give props to toontrack for releasing the new prog drums ezx and superior versions at the same time, which avoids the issue i had in this topic.

[ian nickus]

yes the sdx has more than the ezx, that is a given. The point is that mallet, or bomber, or ludwig are the same drums and sound quite a bit like the ezx out of the box, and if i have the sdx i don’t need the ezx, not the other way around. The ezx is basically a preview of the sdx a year early for someone who wants to use the sdx. The midi, is normally priced at $29 retail or whatever, so if that is what i would get from having both I am paying too much. And toontrack producer presets from “name” producers are only 5 or 10 dollars, so perhaps the sdx owner could buy the ezx mix presets for $5 if that is needed, and the midi from the ezx for $29 if they so desire.

The meat of what is being bought in the sdx, i.e. the drum sounds, make the ezx drum sounds basically obsolete, for the sdx owner. Someone who wants the sdx and wants to adjust the drums themselves will use the sdx, not use the ezx, because it just doesn’t have the same level of sound quality and utility (hence the sdx being more than twice the cost), and the sdx has mix presets as well obviously. When people buy the packages, whether they are sdx or ezx, it should be understood that they are getting things they may or may not use, and the pricing needs to relate to that as well, to keep the customer feeling that they are getting a reasonable value for their money.

[ian nickus]

@Henrik said:

Thanks for your ideas! We will look at this and see if there’s something we can do about it Regarding your question – the limit is not 80% – it’s often the top results are from 80% and up, but as you said, as you filter the results get lower %. The limit is actually a fixed number of results that will be shown (due to technical reasons). But as I said – we’ll look into it!

cool.
I am still a little confused as to which files exactly will show up – it seems like i can take the percentage way down and get low % matches by selecting specific folders to match to. I will highlight a certain folder and then it will match even down at %40 or whatever is closest in that particular folder.

Also wondering if kick and snare seem to be more important in terms of finding matches. It would be great to eventually be able to designate priority in matching, like a “focus” that allows you to select the toms, or toms and snare, for example. That would give better control over the search.

Hopefully TT will keep developing this concept of tap2find, because it is a game changer.

[ian nickus]

so cool. Tap2find is really great now in the new update. This thread is an example of why toontrack is the drum software company all my other drum sounds have to layer onto – you are one of the few companies that really seem to understand (and listen to) HOW people use software.

now we just need an amazing new version of superior drummer, that has this tap 2 find thing, but this will hold me over for handling my midi loops. Thanks

p.s. it would be awesome if i could get more results from tap to find, by setting the threshold lower than %80 matching. I like to tap2find and then maybe i find something that is not really matching so much but leads to me to a better midi loop via tap2find. I know there would be too many results if it went too low (1% would have to give every midi loop in the library as a result probably, but maybe it could be adjusted in preferences down to %60, %50??
EDIT – i guess i actually don’t understand why i get only down to around 80% match results, but then i can click on library names and add more results that are only slightly matching (far below %50). Can someone explain exactly how that works, because it seems like my suggestion about % match threshold is unnecessary?

[ian nickus]

it seems as though most people who care about this feature don’t care much about the tags. Tap2find is a game changer, and that is the functionality that needs to be implemented as soon as possible. I understand that toontrack doesn’t want to do this twice, once rushed through, and once with full tag editing etc, but let’s not get caught up in thinking we need some software that will add tags automatically to midi files – people or companies can do that if a simple tag editor is part of the solution.
Please just let us all match our other loops and midi files with tap2find as soon as you can.

Tap2find is probably the most revolutionary thing i have run into in years, so congratulations on understanding how people are working with with your software, unlike most developers. In my book, tap2find is up there with touch screen controllers and sampler scripts, so please let us implement it. Even if you want to keep your midi libraries as “premium” products and only allow tap2find, that would be better than tagging files.

[ian nickus]

ok. to revise my post above, I want to say that the sneap pack is worth at least 9$, it is a pretty varied run through of some of the possibilities available with metal foundry, so the pricing is fine.
The Packs that deal with avatar library (slate and morgan) however, are just ok.

[ian nickus]

Reduce the price to 5$ please. That would keep these packs in line with your other (very reasonably priced) products.

Also, an electronic producer pack, with a bunch of standard usable sounds, instead of lots of “effects”, would be very cool.

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