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[drumjack52]

I’m a little confused by your question. Are you asking for a recommendation for an audio interface for the laptop or for a desktop computer to replace the laptop? It’s hard to give an answer without knowing what you already have in the way of the computer and what your I/O capabilities are. Are you talking USB, Firewire or what? Also price point enters into the answer as well.

Reply To: Roland TD-50X and Superior Drummer 3 Latency version: 3.3.6
Operating system: macOS High Sierra (10.13)

Jack
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Superior Drummer 3.4.1
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Death and Darkness 1.0.1
PT 2021.6
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[drumjack52]

Don’t blame Toontrack for your supposedly poor download speeds. Get with you ISP on this. Are you using a direct wired connection or wireless? 13 hours for a download? Unless you’re on 56K dialup that kind of slow speed isn’t happening.

Reply To: Will I see Aliens at Area 33? (oops, I did it again…..) version: 3.3.6
Operating system: macOS High Sierra (10.13)

Jack
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Superior Drummer 3.4.1
Area 33 1.0.0
Death and Darkness 1.0.1
PT 2021.6
OSX 10.13.6
3.46 GHz hex core 2012 MacPro 48 gig ram

[drumjack52]

Ken Spence wrote:

Hay Jord

I was looking for away to synchronize Cubase record with SD3 record. Arming
To capture midi in both apps, you have to open the vst, arm the record go back to CuBase and arm the vst track. etc.

I Have 5 screens on my computer system and I am running out of space.
Left is for ctrl pnl of interface & misc : Main screen is for CB: right is for metering : Top is for Mix console and or SD3.
Far right is for videos while practicing and is too far from the main workstation.
I have blue-tooth mice keyboards near the drums. (this is because I practice with videos from the web.)

Because cubase takes over your keyboard no matter what shortcuts you have…you cannot use the keyboard shortcuts in SD3 until the vst window has focus.
So.. the desired work-flow is to arm necessary tracks with the mouse and press a button to arm SD3 without having to open or switch to the vst window.

That is why i was playing with the macros and record button.

Reply To: I broke the record function in SD3 version: 3.3.6
Operating system: Windows 10

There’s no need to arm SD3 for recording when doing recording in your daw. It’s that simple. You really need to heed what Jord has been saying. No need for 5 screens either. No need to see the control panel for your interface. You may want to investigate Mission Control and desktop Spaces in OSX. YOu have a fondness for over-complicating things.

Reply To: I broke the record function in SD3 version: 3.3.6
Operating system: macOS High Sierra (10.13)

Jack
aka musicman691 on other forums
Superior Drummer 3.4.1
Area 33 1.0.0
Death and Darkness 1.0.1
PT 2021.6
OSX 10.13.6
3.46 GHz hex core 2012 MacPro 48 gig ram

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[drumjack52]

Ken Spence wrote:

Hi Jack

I AGREE and that’s the plan always has been since SD2…. Personally I’m not fond of the grid editor in SD3.

The end game for me is to buy a 3rd hardware box to control the midi macros.   This way I can sit within a session, fine tune the sound with the macros and then record all the streams (data & audio) in the DAW. There are 16 stereo output channels in SD3. Witch can all be Captured on the fly.

I am running Cubase on my Studio Capture 1610(#2) and SD3 on Focusright 18i20.

OK it has gotten weird.

Sit and wait 10 minutes …. No work. “R” or mouse….with the track window minimized. Expand the track window and it begins to work no problem!  ^&%%$$$)(**&^&^&^%^&%$#@#@$$##$$$%%???>>

Reply To: I broke the record function in SD3 version: 3.3.6
Operating system: Windows 10

• This post was modified 2 years, 8 months ago by Ken Spence.
  Reason: Added insights

As I said before – lose the macros as they’re causing nothing but problems. Just do everything inside Cubase without macros. Sometimes trying to make things more ‘convenient’ leads to complications. It’s the old KISS principle.

Reply To: I broke the record function in SD3 version: 3.3.6
Operating system: macOS High Sierra (10.13)

Jack
aka musicman691 on other forums
Superior Drummer 3.4.1
Area 33 1.0.0
Death and Darkness 1.0.1
PT 2021.6
OSX 10.13.6
3.46 GHz hex core 2012 MacPro 48 gig ram

[drumjack52]

Ken Spence wrote:

Hi Jack
That’s the problem, yes, I realize I can record the midi inside of Cubase, but when you arm the audio track for the vocals, etc. and arm the VST “midi” track, inside of CB11, the SD3”Rec does not arm.” never has.  You always had to open the VST; record arm superior drummer, then go back to Cubase and record your session.

Using macros from SD3, in Cubase you can adjust those parameters of SD3. Using a midi track.

Eg. by assigning “top” “bottom” and “comp” from the main snare and the xSnare to 1 macro, and inverting the volume parameters on “xSnare” you basically have made a balance control between the volumes of both snares. I also have two more macros that control the amount of reverb of each snare individually.

So naturally, I figured I could arm the record function in SD3.
And I broke it.

Reply To: I broke the record function in SD3 version: 3.3.6
Operating system: Windows 10

If you have a MIDI track in Cubase there’s no need to record anything in SD3. Cubase will hold the MIDI you play on your ekit. Just set the MIDI track in Cubase to trigger SD3 and be done with it. It’s that simple. Lose that macro as you don’t need it. THat’s the way I work in Pro Tools. I let PT handle the MIDI recording.

Reply To: I broke the record function in SD3 version: 3.3.6
Operating system: macOS High Sierra (10.13)

Jack
aka musicman691 on other forums
Superior Drummer 3.4.1
Area 33 1.0.0
Death and Darkness 1.0.1
PT 2021.6
OSX 10.13.6
3.46 GHz hex core 2012 MacPro 48 gig ram

[drumjack52]

What daw are you using? Why did you create a macro (and where is that macro)? Are you recording anything inside SD3?

If you’re doing everything in your daw you should be able to record arm both tracks and then hit the record button in your daw. 3 clicks and done if all you’re recording is the guitar and drums.

If I were you I’d lose the macro.

Reply To: I broke the record function in SD3 version: 3.3.6
Operating system: macOS High Sierra (10.13)

Jack
aka musicman691 on other forums
Superior Drummer 3.4.1
Area 33 1.0.0
Death and Darkness 1.0.1
PT 2021.6
OSX 10.13.6
3.46 GHz hex core 2012 MacPro 48 gig ram

[drumjack52]

Brad:

Like you said hopefully the op will get some help out of this. I knew there had to be a way to futz with the PM to get done what is needed here.

I learned a long time ago to keep downloads of everything saved off to a safe place so I don’t have to worry if the developer I purchased from is still around and has an archive of old downloads.

Jack
aka musicman691 on other forums
Superior Drummer 3.4.1
Area 33 1.0.0
Death and Darkness 1.0.1
PT 2021.6
OSX 10.13.6
3.46 GHz hex core 2012 MacPro 48 gig ram

[drumjack52]

Brad wrote:

drumjack52 wrote:

I don’t think that will work in the op’s case. He’s installing on a new machine and he has

I was under the impression he did want to run them from the SSD. I was thinking they were installed there and he just wanted to point SD3 to that location. My mistake.

I have an SSD with all Toontrack samples on it. When I build a new host I just plug it in and start SD3 navigate to the folder where the SDXs are stored, authorize through PM and I’m good to go.

In the case of having all the install source files in one place, go to PM > preferences and point the downloads folder to where they are installed. Although the button says “download” once it sees the file you are trying to install from it will change to Verify and then Install, rather than download. Also something I do all the time having 3 systems using the same download location and sample location.

Anyway, that’s all I got.

Reply To: Installing Superior Drummer 3 to a new machine (How to?) version: 3.3.6
Operating system: macOS Ventura (13)

Thanks for that as it worked a treat here. Even going from the spinner I mentioned (7200 rpm jobbie in one of my 2012 Mac Pro’s drive bays) to my internal ssd in a card slot it took maybe 10 minutes to get the surround file ‘downloaded’ (from the spinner) and installed on the ssd where I have my samples stored. Don’t know if I’ll do the height surround stuff.

Reply To: Installing Superior Drummer 3 to a new machine (How to?) version: 3.3.6
Operating system: macOS High Sierra (10.13)

Jack
aka musicman691 on other forums
Superior Drummer 3.4.1
Area 33 1.0.0
Death and Darkness 1.0.1
PT 2021.6
OSX 10.13.6
3.46 GHz hex core 2012 MacPro 48 gig ram

[drumjack52]

Brad wrote:

drumjack52 wrote:

Brad wrote:

Frameshifter wrote:

I don’t want to have to download the libraries for...

I don’t want to have to download the libraries for the SDX files again.  They are all located within a single folder on a ssd.  How do I do this?  I did this once before and I had to download and reinstall every library (I own almost all of them)  I do not want to have to do this again and I assume there must be a way.

Thanks for any assistance.

Reply To: Installing Superior Drummer 3 to a new machine (How to?) version: 3.3.6
Operating system: Windows 11

• This post was modified 2 years, 8 months ago by Frameshifter.
  Reason: Added Version and OS information

I don’t want to have to download the libraries for the SDX files again.  They are all located within a single folder on a ssd.  How do I do this?  I did this once before and I had to download and reinstall every library (I own almost all of them)  I do not want to have to do this again and I assume there must be a way.

Thanks for any assistance.

Reply To: Installing Superior Drummer 3 to a new machine (How to?) version: 3.3.6
Operating system: Windows 11

• This post was modified 2 years, 8 months ago by Frameshifter.
  Reason: Added Version and OS information

Hi there,

Using Toontrack Product Manager, download and install Superior Drummer 3 (just the application/plug-in). Authorize via Product Manager.

Start SD3, it will complain that there are no sample libraries and give you the option to navigate to the folder on your SSD.

You can either, authorize each SDX as you select them in SD3 or authorize them all in Product Manager.

Reply To: Installing Superior Drummer 3 to a new machine (How to?) version: 3.3.6
Operating system: macOS Ventura (13)

I don’t think that will work in the op’s case. He’s installing on a new machine and he has the library downloads stored on an ssd. The Product Manager won’t see that ssd and expects to download everything once again and that’s what the op doesn’t want to do. There’s no obvious way to tell the PM to look at the ssd. It’s like I downloaded the surround and height surround files for SD3 and didn’t want to install them at initial install. If I want to install them I have to download those two large files again from the net.

Reply To: Installing Superior Drummer 3 to a new machine (How to?) version: 3.3.6
Operating system: macOS High Sierra (10.13)

As long as he downloads SD3 (application) and starts it up, SD3 will allow him to navigate to the folder where they reside on the SSD. And your right, I forgot a step… after SD3 finds them, go back to Product Manager > View > Refresh Product List… the “Authorize All Products” popup should display.

Reply To: Installing Superior Drummer 3 to a new machine (How to?) version: 3.3.6
Operating system: macOS Ventura (13)

• This post was modified 2 years, 8 months ago by Brad.

You’re still missing what he wants to do. He doesn’t want to run them from the ssd. Even so SD3 won’t know about any SDX’s he has. SD3 only knows about what’s installed through the Product Manager. And as I said the PM won’t see that ssd he wants to install from as it can’t be set to anything other than one’s download folder.

Like I said I have the 2 surround files for SD3 on a spinner where I keep all my installers & downloads. I can’t install those 2 files using the PM because I can’t point the PM to where they are stored.

Reply To: Installing Superior Drummer 3 to a new machine (How to?) version: 3.3.6
Operating system: macOS High Sierra (10.13)

Jack
aka musicman691 on other forums
Superior Drummer 3.4.1
Area 33 1.0.0
Death and Darkness 1.0.1
PT 2021.6
OSX 10.13.6
3.46 GHz hex core 2012 MacPro 48 gig ram

[drumjack52]

Brad wrote:

Frameshifter wrote:

I don’t want to have to download the libraries for...

I don’t want to have to download the libraries for the SDX files again.  They are all located within a single folder on a ssd.  How do I do this?  I did this once before and I had to download and reinstall every library (I own almost all of them)  I do not want to have to do this again and I assume there must be a way.

Thanks for any assistance.

Reply To: Installing Superior Drummer 3 to a new machine (How to?) version: 3.3.6
Operating system: Windows 11

• This post was modified 2 years, 8 months ago by Frameshifter.
  Reason: Added Version and OS information

I don’t want to have to download the libraries for the SDX files again.  They are all located within a single folder on a ssd.  How do I do this?  I did this once before and I had to download and reinstall every library (I own almost all of them)  I do not want to have to do this again and I assume there must be a way.

Thanks for any assistance.

Reply To: Installing Superior Drummer 3 to a new machine (How to?) version: 3.3.6
Operating system: Windows 11

• This post was modified 2 years, 8 months ago by Frameshifter.
  Reason: Added Version and OS information

Hi there,

Using Toontrack Product Manager, download and install Superior Drummer 3 (just the application/plug-in). Authorize via Product Manager.

Start SD3, it will complain that there are no sample libraries and give you the option to navigate to the folder on your SSD.

You can either, authorize each SDX as you select them in SD3 or authorize them all in Product Manager.

Reply To: Installing Superior Drummer 3 to a new machine (How to?) version: 3.3.6
Operating system: macOS Ventura (13)

I don’t think that will work in the op’s case. He’s installing on a new machine and he has the library downloads stored on an ssd. The Product Manager won’t see that ssd and expects to download everything once again and that’s what the op doesn’t want to do. There’s no obvious way to tell the PM to look at the ssd. It’s like I downloaded the surround and height surround files for SD3 and didn’t want to install them at initial install. If I want to install them I have to download those two large files again from the net.

Reply To: Installing Superior Drummer 3 to a new machine (How to?) version: 3.3.6
Operating system: macOS High Sierra (10.13)

Jack
aka musicman691 on other forums
Superior Drummer 3.4.1
Area 33 1.0.0
Death and Darkness 1.0.1
PT 2021.6
OSX 10.13.6
3.46 GHz hex core 2012 MacPro 48 gig ram

[drumjack52]

Ken Spence wrote:

Wow, what a great pissing contest this has been, I am older I’ve done more than you you’ve done more than me. Oh, my freaking God boys really!

I see two issues here.

1. did the libraries get moved and stored on external hard drive?
2. does superior drummer function correctly in standalone, and then inside of a daw?

Now if option one and two are met, does it really matter what your cash file size or system overflow file size or …………matter? Really!!!!

Does it work in your daw and does it work in standalone?

Are the files stored where are you want them?

let the operating system take care of its self, and leave it alone

and that is my $.10 worth

Reply To: I’m having trouble with extremely large system data file version: 3.3.6

• This post was modified 2 years, 8 months ago by Ken Spence.
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Exactly. I think the OP has 2 issues. The first is basic knowledge of how things work with SD3 (and MacOS for that matter). And the second is his obsession over the size of the system file folder. A lot of the malarkey could have been avoided if Janne had given us accurate info to begin with as to what the actual problem is. Like you say if it works in standalone and Logic then the rest is much ado about nothing.

Reply To: I’m having trouble with extremely large system data file version: 3.3.6
Operating system: macOS High Sierra (10.13)

Jack
aka musicman691 on other forums
Superior Drummer 3.4.1
Area 33 1.0.0
Death and Darkness 1.0.1
PT 2021.6
OSX 10.13.6
3.46 GHz hex core 2012 MacPro 48 gig ram

[drumjack52]

Jannetrumma wrote:

And, by the way, my experience of all of this is that none of you were right…and most of you were also very snobbish in their way of “trying” to help…so I return were I started…with, in my (and the Apple supports) opinion that it IS a very large amount of system data……The REAL answer is yet to be discovered when Apple decides to reveal their “system data information” instead of hiding it..

• The post has been modified 2 years, 8 months ago by Jannetrumma
  2 years, 8 months ago by Jannetrumma"> 3 times, last modified 2 years, 8 months ago by Jannetrumma.

I don’t know how much more plainly I can state this: the amount of system data you showed in one of your screenshots (259 gig IIRC) is not excessive but normal.

Reply To: I’m having trouble with extremely large system data file version: 3.3.6
Operating system: macOS High Sierra (10.13)

Jack
aka musicman691 on other forums
Superior Drummer 3.4.1
Area 33 1.0.0
Death and Darkness 1.0.1
PT 2021.6
OSX 10.13.6
3.46 GHz hex core 2012 MacPro 48 gig ram

[drumjack52]

Jannetrumma wrote:

No it doesn’t! I thought you’ve read my earlier posts….the name of my external drives are…”Janne Laci” and “Superior Drummer”….so perhaps you should take a closer look.

I just did take a closer look and  nowheres in your posts did you say what the external drives were named.

Jack
aka musicman691 on other forums
Superior Drummer 3.4.1
Area 33 1.0.0
Death and Darkness 1.0.1
PT 2021.6
OSX 10.13.6
3.46 GHz hex core 2012 MacPro 48 gig ram

[drumjack52]

Jannetrumma wrote:

Ok, well this forum really seems like some kind of competition for little boys rather than where we all share our knowledge in a nice way. Perhaps it is not that crazy…but why didn’t someone in here of all the “besserwissers” and “know it alls” tell me so in the first place??? Oh well….or even better…. why isn’t it possible to se what the system-file contains of…then non of this would have to happen and take up our valued time on this earth…But that’s for Apple to answer…and they won’t….no one in Apples support told me that this isn’t an extremely large amount of system file data….now why is that, you think? The redirected me over here…wich I realise was a big mistake…I m outta here. Thank you and bye bye

• The post has been modified 2 years, 8 months ago by Jannetrumma"> 2 times, last modified 2 years, 8 months ago by Jannetrumma.

We tried to help you but you just didn’t understand what was asked of you. As to the amount of system data as I wrote earlier that’s NOT an outsized amount of data. My system has roughly the same amount of system data as you. You’re obsessing over something you have little control over. Now if you would move the sample files all over to one external drive then you’ll have more breathing room on your internal system drive.

Reply To: I’m having trouble with extremely large system data file version: 3.3.6
Operating system: macOS High Sierra (10.13)

Jack
aka musicman691 on other forums
Superior Drummer 3.4.1
Area 33 1.0.0
Death and Darkness 1.0.1
PT 2021.6
OSX 10.13.6
3.46 GHz hex core 2012 MacPro 48 gig ram

[drumjack52]

Jannetrumma wrote:

Is this the one, perhaps?

Exactly. And by that it shows you have the samples files installed on your internal system drive.

Jack
aka musicman691 on other forums
Superior Drummer 3.4.1
Area 33 1.0.0
Death and Darkness 1.0.1
PT 2021.6
OSX 10.13.6
3.46 GHz hex core 2012 MacPro 48 gig ram

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