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For FL studio users …. I found my answers ( or the help I needed) in the FL 12.9 beta help document on the image-line site. Try using the search term “Buffer underruns”. There is a section called Buffer underruns and maximizing FL studio performance. It has links to things like dealing with an ASIO4ALL driver also. I was finally able to track down my answers from there.

[Catspaw]

Thank you for the reply rrosin. I did try something similar to what you suggested (I’ve tried so many other combos, it’s hard to remember what I’ve done exactly.)

I got help from a fellow midiot and found the solution … at least for me and my setup.

In the FL help documents there’s info on it under “system settings” I believe. It also has links to additional useful info on ASIO4ALL.

When I go back and work with this some more, I will add to this post with specifics as to where this info actually is in the FL help docs.

FL asio worked … sort of. ASIO4ALL had no sound output. When I accessed the panel, it would go “disabled”. Turns out that FL suggests going to the windows speaker tray icon, right-clicking, go to playback devices, and disable the SB card. Then go back and re-enable it. This, I think, ensures that it is closed out for any other apps using ASIO4ALL.

Open FL back up. Audio settings, select ASIO4ALL, and it worked. Buffer latency was displayed as 12 mS (also, at one time 6 mS, but, I don’t remember what setting I was at …. I will be able to go back and play around more now that I have working steps to take,) There might be other ways to set this up better, I don’t know. Auto Close in FL doesn’t seem to do it.

It was recommended that FL asio would be better, but, so far it doesn’t appear to do as well as straight ASIO4ALL. the ASIO4ALL has very acceptable (very playable or un-noticable) latency. Until I can dial all this in better, I’ll use the ASIO4ALL so I can play instead of troubleshooting.

[Catspaw]

Well, for what’s it’s worth …. I found that FL studio has C3 as midi note 36. So, EZ appears to be doing it’s job.

There could be some unbeknownst setting, that I’m not aware of at this time, that causes the piano roll to have the map it has.

At least posting this helped me line up the problem for myself and made me dig for better understanding. I now know more about my system than I did and that’s always a good thing. Who knows, maybe it will answer some one else’s question some time.

[next time I’ll work harder before posting … that math thing needed to post is hard ….]

I will also add for informational purposes, that it appears there’s a discrepancy in the mfg. industry for where octaves are placed. So, there is no violation of the standard. Both FL and EZ drummer, while placing the octaves at different points, are both correct.

Consequently, this is nothing more than an adjustment for the system/equipment and not some error in compatibility.

[Catspaw]

Thank you for the response. No, I understand the “Key” is the musical value. What I haven’t understood is … The EZ bass drum is C1, midi note 36. When I click on, place a note, whatever on the piano roll at C1, some other instrument plays. If I want to play the kick I have to play something like C3 or C4 (don’t remember exactly.) It’s like EZ is transposed by two or three octaves.

Seems to me that C1(36) is C1. If the bass drum is C1 and C1 is played, then the bass should play. But it doesn’t. Piano roll is playing C1, EZ bass is set to C1, and EZ (or FL) decides it’s going to play something OTHER than C1.

I can transpose the notes in FL studio by changing the root note in EZ (using as a VST). Then everything lines up. Simple fix I suppose.

But, what’s the point in having a standard (MIDI) that you have to clean up/fix. I want to spend time making music, not trouble shooting VST/DAW inconsistencies.

I think I’ve finally identified all the informational displays now. So, I’ll go back in and make some tests to see if I can identify who’s doing exactly what.

[Catspaw]

Well, apparently I’ve answered my own question. Right-clicking on an instrument gets you a menu. Click on “Details” and you get note info.

The “Key” info is either wrong or I’m misunderstanding what it means. If you click on (toggle) “Key”, you will get the actual midi “Note”.

In the case of the basic bass drum, the “Key” is designated as C1, but the actual midi note is 36. 36 corresponds directly with the note played in my piano roll.

So, I apparently have no idea what “Key” is supposed to be.

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