[brenyn]

I couldnt get cubase to work (  its an old version of nuendo any way )    so i tried the old version of reaper – just as a comparision .
and guess what –  instant no latency .

so i bought the new version –  and its working superb –  real time monitoring SD2 from a td20 and recording a full project  at the sametime .

think i will stick with reaper

thanks for all the suggestions .

one thing that really helped  was updating the moboard bios , this dropped the latency down by 30%

[brenyn]

thanks lads ,  i will look at freeing up as much vst space as possible in the cubase project , 
and see if  i can get the VST latency  for S2 down in cubase .

[brenyn]

thanks for the help so far ,  but I dont understand how is anyone else playing and monitoring using SD sounds while recording midi – without using SD as a VST ?

I cannto see how its possible to record real time drums using SD as a vst – the latentcy would be impossible to eliminate .
by its very nature – the project audio reaching the drummer has to be reacted to , and the reponse played back in real time to the drummer –  I cant see how this works with no or minimal latency.- unless you have a dual quad core or a KRAY 🙂

I will how ever see if loading just the bare minimum vsts etc has an effect.

do you think a new seperate midi / audio interface would work  to run toon track solo seperatley ?

[brenyn]

ok,  you say you cant run at the same time ?
the problem with using the  SD as vst  is this :
say we have a project in cubase with click , bass track , guitar tracks and scratch drum track- and you now wish to record a proper drum track using  edrums to midi in cubase on a midi track .
the project will play back from cubase into the interface monitoring ( say head phones )
the drummer will hear the track , play the notes , but due to the in / out latency for vst processing – he will hear all the played notes way to late in the overall mix – so will get lost time wise .
Solution
if he could play the notes into cubase while monitoring
a/ using toon track solo sounds .
or the less preferable
b/  td-20 sounds direct thru the interface audio (  but which do not respond as well as the sounds in SD / toon track )
it works ,
 but  b/  does not give good midi results due to the way td-20 sounds play / trigger compared to SD sounds.
NOTE
I can run waves GTR3 at the same time as cubase on the same interface  and record guitars fine using DI’s  –  why not SD/ and toon track solo ?
 
are you saying  i need a second interface of some kind to process the MIDI with  toon track solo output for monitoring
of the vdrums input / output –  and use the audio feed from this into my main card to hear it in sync with cubase ?
this sounds a bit overkill.

NOTE pc is set up for studio – multi cpu is set up in cubase
 
Would it be better if I removed the vst instances of  SD in cubase – so that we dont have Toontrack solo AND vst in memeroy at same time ?  – and just record the raw midi instead of just muting SD in cubase. ?

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