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  • bgibson72
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    I’m not sure who told you drummers can’t stand AVH’s snare sound–maybe you’re hanging out with the wrong crowd? LOL

    Anyway, I’m a drummer but not an EZD2 user–I’m an Addictive Drums user. :P If you can get me some info, I MAY be able to help you. I’m not sure how EZD2 works but in AD, I start with the Ludwig LM402 6″x14″ snare (his actual drum) and then tweak the pitch, compression and other settings. I think part of AVH’s sound is in the way that he plays, microphone/recording settings and of course head choice, which I’m sure are beyond the scope of any DAW and drum app. Let me know what kind of snares you have to work with and maybe a screenshot or two showing the settings you have available and we’ll see what we can come up with. I’m sure that you have either abandoned this or found something that works considering the amount of time that passed, but I thought I would respond anyway because of your first sentence! At any rate, you also might want to compare the ‘open hit’ sound with the ‘rimshot’ or whatever terminology EZD2 uses. I can’t confirm this, but the tone almost sounds closer to a very solid rimshot as compared to openly hitting the center of the batter head. I think his heads were tuned with the top lower than the bottom, and the bottom possibly being a thicker head than the standard snare side head (maybe Remo Diplomat or Ambassador) and to compensate for lack of sensitivity in the thinner head, he may use a 30-42 strand snare wire. Of course, this is all moot when considering a electronic representation, but it’s good to know? Maybe?

    Reference this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRK-S-tibA0

    Good luck…

    bgibson72
    Participant

    Hello! I finally got around to trying this out, and it works great with my crash cymbals. I noticed a few oddities though–one of my crashes triggers great when the cable is cocked parallel to the cymbal rather than “hanging” down. Also, I must not have understood the concept of the 2 zone cymbal as it’s not triggering the way I intended. Can someone help me with this setup (i believe in the KISS method!)? I wired the cymbal as I would a drum, with head and rim piezo’s (head=bell, rim=bow/edge). This doesn’t seem to work. This is on my ride, where I would like the bell to be independent of the bow/edge. Also, I seem to be getting an odd triggering with this same cymbal as it sounds like a single hit is retriggering or echoing. I tried to adjust the retrigger, threshold, scan time, etc. with no luck (Roland TD-8). Is it all due to the wrong wiring? If anyone can help, I sure would appreciate it!!

    Thanks in advance!

    bgibson72
    Participant

    These placemats are no longer available as pictured from IKEA, unfortunately. They have a different design, but are still round so I suppose they would be fine. I’ve also thought about using a Pulse neoprene cymbal mute on the top to further deaden the metal clunk. It would be great to find something to stretch around the rim of the cymbal for aesthetic and muting reasons (it looks like the cymbal pictured with the red placemat has that, but it’s probably just your splash with the 15″ placemat underneath, eh?). Thanks for the great instruction though–I’m going to try this out asap. I was hoping to find something non-destructive since I may decide to use these cymbals again acoustically.

    bgibson72
    Participant

    Very cool–leave them longer for the octoban look!!  Does PVC tubing come in 8″, 10″, 12″ and 14″ diameters?

    bgibson72
    Participant

    Hello–I’ve made my own heads from old broken heads.  I used the rim only, and window/door screen fabric from a local big box home store in a double layer with the fibers running at 45 degree angles from each other.  I’ve not tried using the “pet proof” fabric, but it may be a wise choice for you heavy hitters due to the increased thickness and durability.  Cutting the screen about 2 inches larger than the hoop, I wrapped the excess over the hoop and then stitched around (loop stitch) the rim with a heavy weight thread (nylon fishing line or similar will do)  Be careful to pull it tight as you work, but loose enough to give when tightened around the drum.  For extra insurance, I used some gaffer tape around the rim in case I lost a stitch or two tightening the drum or when played.  Works a treat!  

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