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[Brooks H]

Bear-Faced Cow wrote:

I use ’em all the time between all of my drum software and apps. No problems here…

jord

Yeah, we’ve had this discussion. MIDI In & MIDI Out mappings are not synced, so nothing but problems for me.

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[Brooks H]

Bear-Faced Cow wrote:

Brooks H wrote:

+1 on the groove editor, especially since Toontrack makes it less than ideal to work outside of its sequencer.

What makes it less than ideal? I go between SD3 and Logic/Reason rather seamless. They also have groove template quantization.

jord

Custom MIDI IN mappings makes it less than ideal. Problems as soon as I step out of the SD3 ecosystem.

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[Brooks H]

+1 on the groove editor, especially since Toontrack makes it less than ideal to work outside of its sequencer.

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[Brooks H]

Surprised Toontrack didn’t send notification not to update like almost every other manufacturer of plugins I own. It seems like none of them are ready for Catalina yet.

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[Brooks H]

I was about to say, we can mute notes?

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[Brooks H]

Definitely my favorite SDX so far. If I ever get one, this will be it.

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[Brooks H]

Henrik Ekblom wrote:

Scroll to the top, on the top right side there’s an Unsubscribe button.

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I am still getting “New Reply” alerts for this thread.

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[Brooks H]

@AsaP you’ll find that as great as SD3 is, there are some very odd things about it if you’ve gotten used to some other drum plugins.

I’ve convinced myself I only need 16 channels, so converting all but 2-3 of them to mono in Logic wasn’t the worst thing. The suggested work around was too long winded for me.

I agree with you. The absence of mono outputs is at best odd.

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[Brooks H]

Bear-Faced Cow wrote:

Toontrack has a bunch of videos on their channel for SD3.

In addition to 3rd party vids, these are what I used pre-sale to help me with my decision. I wanted Orchestral Percussion, but didn’t want to buy the plugin for just the one SDX. Seeing what could be done with the original kits sold it.

 

Gert van Duinen wrote:

Make sure you subscribe to Mike Luke YouTube channel. He shares a ton of SD details, tricks and little  secrets.

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Yup, good stuff.

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[Brooks H]

Yeah, putting a mono effect on stereo tracks of mono miked instruments seems to do the trick (Logic).

And I’ll either get used to jumping back & forth between DAW & SD3 sequencers or reserve use of SD3 for Orchestral Percussion tracks. Shame. SD3 is >this< close to being my main drum plugin. Being the only one complaining about this, I doubt this will ever be changed.

Valuable lesson though. Nothing is a given. What I believe to be basic is not always so. I’ll do better asking questions prior to my next plugin purchase.

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[Brooks H]

All of my drum kits are mapped the same in every drum VI & sampler I own (I have 4 somewhat genre specific layouts). Its never been a problem until now. But I’m glad you’re method is working for you. Good luck to me.

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[Brooks H]

John wrote:

Well, it’s unfortunately host-dependent also.

In Pro Tools, I just add a Mono Aux/Instrument Track and set its Input to a .L or .R part of a plugin output. I.e. no problem at all.

 

BR,
John

Adding a mono effect plugin turns tracks to mono. It was late. I’ll have to listen to the results, but this could work.

 

Bear-Faced Cow wrote:

It’s not that big a deal in Logic also. Master a few key commands (or customize your own) and you can get it done rather expediently. A little effort never hurt anyone.

As well, there is no universal drum map. Maybe you need to rethink how you are going about this.

jord

Big deal is relevant. Compared to other drum plugins, it’s a PITA.

Yeah, I’m rethinking. The way SD3 wants me to accomplish what I’ve always done is a workflow killer. I imagine it’s great if it’s your only drum VI. Being new to me, it doesn’t mesh well with how I’ve always worked.

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[Brooks H]

This is THEE most inconvenient plugin I’ve worked. Between the inability to set a universal MIDI map and convoluted way to route to mono tracks, I’m struggling with it.

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[Brooks H]

Scott wrote:

Brick Fist Pow wrote:

Are there DAW’s other than Cubase that use mono outs? Why aren’t there mono outs for all DAW’s? I’m using Reaper and afaik it supports only stereo outs, meaning most of the channels are not usable when routing each channel to the DAW. Is there a SD3 user manual other than the pdf’s located in the SD3 folder?

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I may have found a workaround freeing up more channels by panning left/right. For example, panning Kick left and Snare right on outs 1/2, then routing those to seperate channels in my DAW. Then in DAW panning again where appropriate. Does this make sense to do it this way? Am I altering the sound routing the signal like this?

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Yes. Panning out is the way Reaper and other DAWs can handle mono from S3. Cubase handles it differently so that’s why the Mono Out for Cubase only was implemented in S3.

The S3 manual can be found here online:

https://www.toontrack.com/manual/superior-drummer-3/

Finally went to do this and realize either this won’t work or I don’t know what I’m doing.

I can change “regular” Logic aux tracks to mono & stereo, but the aux tracks added by the + sign on the SD3 Instrument track don’t have that option. Panning within SD3  will only push signals to the left & right of the stereo channels. What am I missing? Ultimately I’m looking to route mono mics to mono aux tracks in Logic.

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[Brooks H]

Oh yeah, I’m talking strictly while browsing & previewing.

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