[B Sandy]

That looks great. So what’s the fix?

[B Sandy]

OK, I’ve created a post in the SD3 help forum on this issue:

https://www.toontrack.com/forums/topic/non-smooth-transition-between-hi-hat-samples/

[B Sandy]

I’m using an Alesis Trigger IO and had to map the choke trigger on cymbals to the ‘Mute Tail’ sample on SD3. I had to dig around in the MIDI mapping box to find the Mute Tail. It’s not the same as Mute Hit, which is an additional strike.

[B Sandy]

I have the same issue. The problem, which is clear in Keith’s mp3, is that if you strike the HH when it’s open, let it ring and then slowly move the pedal, the transition between samples is non-existent: it just cuts from one sample to the next. You’d expect some kind of cross-fading between the samples but instead SD3 just seems to cut between them.

As far as I can see, this has nothing to do with the drum brain or trigger (mine’s a TD12 + VH11). The TD12+VH12 does give a discontiguous CC4 (it jumps in steps of about 5 (out of 128). But I’ve tried smoothing the CC data in an editor so that it’s totally smooth and moves in steps of 1 and it makes no difference to the sound from SD3.

The problem (as far as I can tell) is that there is no smooth cross fading between the samples. I guess one doesn’t normally come across this so much in a percussion sample but any virtual instrument for a sustained instrument (e.g. a horn) with a post note-onset intensity/volume/swell controller would have such a feature, right?

The same problem exists though with the note onsets as well – there’s no smooth transition between the sample. So if you do a roll on the HH and slowly open the pedal, you can clearly hear when the sample changes, which sounds totally unnatural. (I’ve attached an mp3 of this.)

[B Sandy]

My problem is that the sample triggering is so discontiguous.
If you do a roll on the hi-hat and increasingly lift the pedal you can so clearly hear the change in samples for openness. It sounds ridiculous and the TD12’s own HH triggering sounds infinitely better.

There doesn’t seem to be any cross-fading of the sample – there’s no smooth blending from one sample to the next, plus there only seems to be one HH voice, so if you do a roll on the hi-hat, each sample is cut off by the next one, which sounds ridiculous too.

Seems incredible for what’s otherwise such a fantastic instrument.

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