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Thanks for the long response. Much appreciated. I’ll look into that tip, but I don’t believe there’s a need for engineering a hard snare hit…it should come very close to that from the outset without tricks.

While you’re addressing midi velocities…

I’m unsure if its been addressed, but the DAW “Studio One 2 Pro” by Presonus has MIDI piano roll velocities ranging from 0-100. I’m not saying this is the issue, because the 100 is equivalent to 127 on standard piano rolls… But I will contact PreSonus or search their forums about this.

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@olliepudge said:We all learn from each other. There’s ALWAYS something someone else does that you might not know about.  

Sure, but that’s not what you’re asking. You’re asking how to get a specific sound. The best advice, then, would be to use that snare whose sound you’re trying to obtain.

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@George Bellas said:

….Entering the keyboard notes manually….is faster when reassigning to a key that is not in the current keyboard view.  

Nice, I’ll give this a try. Thanks…and glad you share my frustration. 🙂

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@andrushkiwt said:

Two: It is showing me numbered keys, not notes. My MIDI editor in my DAW goes by E0, E1, F3, etc… not 48, 49, 65. It’s going to take a lot of back and forths to make sure I have things where I want them.

thanks!  

Ah, I see now where I can change this. There’s a button with three straight lines, horizontally, and that gives a few more options in the MIDI panel. One of the options is to “show numbers” or “show keys”. Changing it to keys is what I needed. Sweet.

However, here’s a major flaw – If the hit I want to move is too far from its intended MIDI note, I have to first drag it onto an empty space and then bring it down, slowly, until I get to the intended spot. This is because the panel of MIDI notes DOES NOT SCROLL while dragging an item. Yup. So, if my crash 4 is currently on A3 and I want it on A0, I have to move it down a bit, drop it off halfway on an empty space (if there even is one), scroll down a bit, pick it back up, drop it again, and then finally put it where I want it.

Why doesn’t the panel scroll along with the dragging movement??!!?!

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@John said:
Hi,

if I understand you correctly, expand the ‘MIDI Mapping’ panel and click ‘Show MIDI Mapping Keys’.
Select your added drum/cymbal. You should now see its articulations lit up in blue in the MIDI Mapping Keys window.
Then you just grab the articulation in question and drag it to your desired location.

BR,
John  

Alright, a few annoyances.

One: When I select an instrument while MIDI mapping is open and showing keys, the piano roll automatically adjusts so that the note hit is now on the top of the screen. I’d much rather it stay still so I can see what is above it without having to scroll up on that panel. For example, if I click the cymbal 5 icon, the piano roll on the R will adjust itself so that the cymbal 5 hit is on top of that screen. Why?

Two: It is showing me numbered keys, not notes. My MIDI editor in my DAW goes by E0, E1, F3, etc… not 48, 49, 65. It’s going to take a lot of back and forths to make sure I have things where I want them.

thanks!

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@olliepudge said:
Hi All,

I’m looking for some tips/ideas on how to properly EQ a snare drum. First of all, I’m not new to this. I’ve been playing drums and recording them for years, but I’m not an expert. I’m just interested in what my fellow drummers out there do with this. I like a snare that has a deep sound, but also has that crack to it. I know that isn’t much to give you to work with, so I guess the best example of the snare sound I’m looking for would be Abe Cunningham’s from the Deftones. Just an example. I’d love some feedback on this. Thanks!  

You’d be better off selecting a snare that is as close to what you want from the beginning. EQ’ing something to death is not going to give a pleasant sound – you can’t really take a different sounding snare, apply EQ, then have it sound like the snare you want. It will sound like a different snare, sure, but probably not what you’re looking for. The best way to get a snare sound is to use that snare.

That being said, there is no one single way to EQ a snare. If it is missing lows, you can add some, if it has too much of it, you can take it out.

Still, finding out which snare he uses, then searching out SD’s massive libraries and options available, will give you the best possible result.

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@Henrik said:
Double click a groove to play it once. Press the play button to loop it.

Here are some more tips:
While a groove is playing you can listen to the next groove by either
* Click on the other groove (that will make the groove continue to play from the previously played groove, in sync)
* Press the play button on the other groove – that will start the loop from the start.  

Excellent. Thanks a lot!

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@Blackstone said:

sounds good man. This tune will go over on most college campuses I bet. good luck to you.

hey thanks, that means a lot to me. i appreciate it.

Were these drums programmed or did someone play them with a eKit? I just got into using SD2(as a drummer using an eKit) and trying to get an idea of what programmed vs played sounds like.

these were programmed in SD2. I am not a drummer but I do write the drum parts in my head for my originals. I spend more time worrying about the specific hits and fills, but I am starting to think more about the sound of the drums as well. Typically, I start with an idea I have for a section, like the verse, and I try to find the closest thing possible in the “groove” area. Once I find what I’m looking for, I drag and drop that groove into my DAW. From there, I manipulate the major components of that groove, like kick hit placement and snare hits, until I get it to how it originally sounded in my head. It would probably take me way too long to note every single hi hat hit, with varying “feel” and intensity levels, so that’s where choosing a close-sounding groove comes in. Same thing for the fills.

Thanks for listening, I really appreciate it, and I’m glad you liked the track!

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So, the bus section on the SD mixer is blank when you start a session? Maybe I wasn’t following the videos very well, if that’s the case. I get why you would want to group the toms together, to control the combined effect, but I wasn’t sure why all the videos skipped the individual channels altogether and went right to the bus section of the mixer in SD. I’d rather work each individually. But I’m thinking that routing each drum piece to the DAW will increase the workload of the CPU, especially when effects start piling up.

While we’re at it, yesterday you mentioned that you double up on the snare. What techniques do you use for this? What is different about the two snares? And what is the result of mixing those two snares together? I will try this at home later. I’m thinking it can give a “beefier” sound…?

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hey, thanks! Glad you like the songs, but I do need to clean up the drums, guitars, and vocals. Thanks a lot for listening.

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it’s not exactly my style of music but it isn’t bad
How do you record your Guitars? if you are interest I could reamp some of the Guitars for you with my Kemper Amp.

Heavy Greetz

the drums aren’t bad, the songs themselves, or the mixes of them?

The guitar is recorded through an AudioBox USB, directly into the interface. I spent more on the computer than on the mixing equipment…

Only been mixing these tracks for about 6 months, so plenty to learn still. But I test those tracks out at homerecording.com and see what those folks have to say about them. Doing it myself is certainly cheaper than going to the studio every month to record. Plus, I can play around with all kinds oscillators and filters that I couldn’t ever find in stompbox form. Slowly, but surely, the mixes are improving. I’m certainly open to suggestions on improving the quality of the mix. EQ, mastering, anything at all. Thanks for all the responses. I appreciate it much.

also, i’ll check out that broadcast. No one really taught me anything on this software, I usually just adjust levels, add EQ, tiny Comp, bit of “drum booth” verb, and call it a day. typical guitar player. ha

Taras

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Perfect. Exactly what I needed. I figured out up to the mapping part on my own, but was stuck from there. Thanks a lot!

If interested, here are 4 originals all made with SD2 Avatar. I’ll also move it to the appropriate forum, if one exists. thanks again!

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