Why No Proper Multitrack Triggering Effect?

[jdahl]

I’m always sad at the lack of pro-level drum triggering software for VST/Non-Pro Tools hosts. And specifically, I’m wondering why Toontrack hasn’t made Drumtracker into a proper insert effect, so clientele can replace drum sounds on the fly, like Pro Tools users?

Seems like an odd thing to do, as it would encourage the use of Superior Drummer/Toontrack software as drum replacement tools. And really, for $149, I think an effect version is to be expected. Just my opinion, seem like you guys are missing a trick here.

Jeremy Dahl Audio Designer tbaDIGITAL.com

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[Whitten]

Drumagog and Slate Trigger haven’t cornered the market?

[Jay Coover]

I agree with jdahl. Actually might sell more copies of SD if it could be used in this way or came with a trigger plug-in. Just a filter and a gate on the source, convert that amplitude to MIDI velocity, done, right?

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[jdahl]

Thanks, fizbin – I agree!

To answer your question, Whitten: it’s not so much about the competition, but the fact that Toontrack made fully working, professional drum triggering software and deliberately made it external-ONLY!

Those other two are (correctly) internal plug-ins, so you don’t have to waste a day exporting/importing MIDI and wave files! It utterly confounds me why they chose this route and charged a premium price for it. No offense intended to Toontrack, but it just bewilders me. They’ve got everything else….now they make…pianos? instead of a proper, internal drum trigger? Would it take that much to adapt the code to make it an insert? Bizarre.

Jeremy Dahl Audio Designer tbaDIGITAL.com

[Rogue]

ORIGINAL: jdahl
Would it take that much to adapt the code to make it an insert? Bizarre.

yes, if we wanted to keep the accuracy that a standalone program allows us.

… without going into details, that is the major reason, when Drumtracker was developed, that it was chosen not to make it an insert. I can’t speak of the competition (for obvious reason) but we did research the market then, which only confirmed our opinion that an insert would be a compromise of the result one could obtain with the program.

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[jdahl]

I see. So no chance of an insert-version? I would surely buy that.

Jeremy Dahl Audio Designer tbaDIGITAL.com

[Rogue]

all I can say is that we are aware of the different ways to work when it comes to drum replacement, and that there is a demand for more ‘instantaneous’ results.

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