why can’t we enlarge/size window?

[Lorne]

or am I missing something. the SP2 window is so...

or am I missing something. the SP2 window is so small and has a limited size (so it appeares)..
I am constantly scrolling the mixer view and swapping betweek construct and the mixer???

why does this have to be?

at a res of 1920 x 1080 the window is only 1/4 the size od the screen! it is so frustrating and time consuming!

heck, both views could fit in the screen at once with no need to scroll or flip from one view to another!

now having said all that someone is gonna tell me it is possible!!! lol

or am I missing something. the SP2 window is so small and has a limited size (so it appeares)..
I am constantly scrolling the mixer view and swapping betweek construct and the mixer???

why does this have to be?

at a res of 1920 x 1080 the window is only 1/4 the size od the screen! it is so frustrating and time consuming!

heck, both views could fit in the screen at once with no need to scroll or flip from one view to another!

now having said all that someone is gonna tell me it is possible!!! lol

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[profirhino]

@Scott said:

With speakers that far apart, you’d have to be sitting in the middle is the room with 6′ long arms to reach the mouse and keyboard. 😉

But, I know what you mean.  

thanks for replying, Scott !
the absurd pic shows the placement dilemma perfectly.
either lose screens 1 & 3, move the speakers towards the middle and you have the typical bedroom setup with all its limitations.
sit down and “produce”.

or, you might actually need 2 screens at least to work properly – be prepared to move your seat, keyboard, controllers, whatever back by 1 – 1.5m, can’t angle the speakers too much either, in order to keep a halfway sane stereo image.

while all this is certainly not TT’s fault, this is the environment your products get used in, if we’re talking (semi-)pro studios.
I had special medical glasses made, like reading glasses optimized for a distance of 1.2m, and only use old school 1920×1200 @ 26″x2 between the speakers (+ a 3rd one on the side), I can work without excessive eye strain for hours, but Superior’s details just disappear in blurry guesswork.

come on, would it really be so hard to compile a parallel version with twice the width and height and appropriately scaled elements ?
nobody needs trendy vector shenanigans, nobody even needs switching, a simple SuperiorSize.dll would do …
but we definitely need to see what we are doing !

peace,
Rhino

[Scott]

@profirhino said:

thanks for replying, Scott !
the absurd pic shows the placement dilemma perfectly.
either lose screens 1 & 3, move the speakers towards the middle and you have the typical bedroom setup with all its limitations.
sit down and “produce”.

or, you might actually need 2 screens at least to work properly – be prepared to move your seat, keyboard, controllers, whatever back by 1 – 1.5m, can’t angle the speakers too much either, in order to keep a halfway sane stereo image.

while all this is certainly not TT’s fault, this is the environment your products get used in, if we’re talking (semi-)pro studios.
I had special medical glasses made, like reading glasses optimized for a distance of 1.2m, and only use old school 1920×1200 @ 26″x2 between the speakers (+ a 3rd one on the side), I can work without excessive eye strain for hours, but Superior’s details just disappear in blurry guesswork.

come on, would it really be so hard to compile a parallel version with twice the width and height and appropriately scaled elements ?
nobody needs trendy vector shenanigans, nobody even needs switching, a simple SuperiorSize.dll would do …
but we definitely need to see what we are doing !

peace,
Rhino  

Well, I’m not a programmer so I don’t know how easy or hard it is to make the size adjustable. But, Toontrack listens to its customers and have taken notes on all suggestions. It may not seem like they are listening but they are.

The time it is taking may be some indication just how much of a rewrite of code it is to implement.

Scott Sibley - Toontrack
Technical Advisor

[Johan_38]

Just bought SD2 and on my Alienware with 3200×1800 pixels I CANNOT read the avatar. I feel this product is a con. Shameful implementation. I want my money back asap. Also the latency through the ASIO driver straight to TD30 is sh!t.

[profirhino]

@Johan_38 said:
Just bought SD2 and on my Alienware with 3200×1800 pixels I CANNOT read the avatar. I feel this product is a con. Shameful implementation. I want my money back asap. Also the latency through the ASIO driver straight to TD30 is sh!t.  

While I certainly won’t defend the UI size, to be fair, the latency is not Superior’s fault.
It’s been running glitch free here @ 64 samples ever since it came out in the Pleistocene or thereabouts.
Obviously, with lots of other tracks running latency needs to be set a notch or two higher.
various PCs, RME PCIe, currently W7/64, C9, S1v.3.3.
Check your driver configuration …
cheers,
Rhino

[Mick Greenwood]

I too have just invested in the SD2, latency is not an issue for me, but unfortunately I have to join the overwhelming consensus of members here by stating that the graphics sizing is a total loss and almost impossible to decipher. Why on earth with such an otherwise great product has this most obvious fault not been rectified before now.
I’m hugely disappointed, my eyes and mouse are rebelling in no uncertain terms, and with regret I have to say that as things stand this product is not fit for purpose.
Please put all your effort into sorting this out, and sending all us investors in your company a workable update.
Mick

[Manu_32]

I’m with Mick (and many others) here. Greatly disappointed in the lack of a scale-able window. Even with readers on, the program is useless as anything of the teaching tool for myself that I hoped it would be. Without an immediate fix available, I’ll have to give it a 1 star review for value as anything other than sound file source for a keyboard controller, since I’m not using it as a plugin for recording/mixing/songwriting for myself. What’s more, I obviously cannot justify buying any more of the instrument packages. What’s bizarre is that even the demo on the laptop on Sweetwater’s website takes up more than half the screen of the machine, while I can easily fit SIX of these windows on my screen!

[Scott Eshleman]

@Manu_32 said:
What’s bizarre is that even the demo on the laptop on Sweetwater’s website takes up more than half the screen of the machine, while I can easily fit SIX of these windows on my screen!  

Because Sweetwater likely used a screen resolution that made it so.
Is it that hard to change the screen resolution to suit the application with which you’re working at the moment for the moment??

Attached are screenshots of SuperiorDrummer2 running in Toontrack Solo at various screen resolutions.

[profirhino]

wow, why didn’t I think of that ?
Finally Cubase looks as huge as it sounds …
sorry, my pathetic 2GB GTX750 TI can’t do 1024×540, 1024×768 is the closest I could do.
time to dig out the trusty old 2MB Millennium, not sure if my hexcore has a PCI slot anymore …
maybe upgrade to that indestructible P II 300 with W98 ?
vintage rules !

let’s face it, Superior is abandonware at this point.
check the sad timeline of this thread and tell me otherwise !
oh well,
Rhino

[John]

Repeating what has already been said here:
While Toontrack never comment ahead of releases, they do say that they listen to users and this has been a request by many users over a long period of time, so why would it be ignored?
Neither one of us in this thread is involved in the actual coding, so it’s not really fair to say that it is an easy fix that should have been made a long time ago.

@profirhino said:
let’s face it, Superior is abandonware at this point.
check the sad timeline of this thread and tell me otherwise !
 

Why on earth would you think the Superior line is abandoned? It isn’t.

John Rammelt - Toontrack
Technical Advisor

[profirhino]

@John said:
Why on earth would you think the Superior line is abandoned? It isn’t.  

if it walks like a duck …
we’re specifically talking about the plugin here, not “the line”.
prove me wrong, I believe it when I see it.

@John said:… this has been a request by many users over a long period of time, so why would it be ignored?

fully agreed, that’s the question.
and long period of time means this goes back way before this thread started.

@John said:
it’s not really fair to say that it is an easy fix that should have been made a long time ago.

Superior is not the only plugin on the market. Others keep their UIs up to date too, so it can be done.
it is absolutely fair to say that it is an fix that should have been made a long time ago.
and easy – come on …
don’t let your programmers hear they would have a major problem with something marginal like increasing UI size.
order it, it will get done and it will work after 2 or 3 bugfixes.
the stumbling block is not ordering it, I would never blame the programmers.

look, this is not personal, I understand it’s part of your job to reply the way you do.
from a user’s perspective this does not help much.
peace,
Rhino

[Scott]

@John said:
Repeating what has already been said here:
While Toontrack never comment ahead of releases, they do say that they listen to users and this has been a request by many users over a long period of time, so why would it be ignored?
Neither one of us in this thread is involved in the actual coding, so it’s not really fair to say that it is an easy fix that should have been made a long time ago.

@profirhino said:
let’s face it, Superior is abandonware at this point.
check the sad timeline of this thread and tell me otherwise !
 

Why on earth would you think the Superior line is abandoned? It isn’t.  

Unfortunately John, what everyone is asking us to do is to break our NDA and tell them what exactly Toontrack is developing and the timeframe for it all, which we, as techs, have no idea about. You and I are not going to do that. We can only say what we’ve said earlier. Toontrack takes note of feature requests. That’s all we can do.

Scott Sibley - Toontrack
Technical Advisor

[profirhino]

@Scott said:

Unfortunately John, what everyone is asking us to do is to break our NDA and tell them what exactly Toontrack is developing and the timeframe for it all, which we, as techs, have no idea about. You and I are not going to do that. We can only say what we’ve said earlier. Toontrack takes note of feature requests. That’s all we can do.  

great, absolutely convincing.
people have not been asking for a breach of NDA, an NDA means nothing to us.
people have been asking for a solution, for a fix to an ages old showstopper that got “listened to” for many years now, with zero results.
unless you count the suggestion to reduce screen resolution to 1024×540, to be fair.

don’t worry, be happy.
thank you,
Rhino

[Scott Eshleman]

@profirhino said:
unless you count the suggestion to reduce screen resolution to 1024×540, to be fair.
 

Firstly, I am not a Toontrack employee or paid support.
My posts on this forum are voluntary and do not reflect the position or opinions of Toontrack,
their programmers, their support or any of the other people offering support on this forum.

Secondly, as long as we’re being fair, there are AN AWFUL LOT of non-technical users throughout the Toontrack forum.
While the screen resolution workaround might be obvious, laughable or even offensive to you,
any one of these other users may want to try it out for themselves, on their primary screen or better, on a second screen.

Screen resolutions such as those are (still) standard for ‘state-of-the-art’ devices like the Slate Raven MTi.
There are more than a few programs & plugins on either of the Mac Pro systems in our studio
that are ‘unusable’ at the native resolution of their 4k monitors.
So we adjusted the screen resolution to suit our needs.

[George Bellas]

@Scott said:
Well, I’m not a programmer so I don’t know how easy or hard it is to make the size adjustable. But, Toontrack listens to its customers and have taken notes on all suggestions. It may not seem like they are listening but they are.
  

Being under a NDA sure can be brutal when the natives are restless! 😉

The scalable interface and detachable panes are a godsend. Hats off to all those who are now having eye twitches from sifting through thousands upon thousands of lines of code. Thank you so much for all your passionate work, it goes greatly appreciated!

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SYSTEM SPECS
Mac Pro 3.2 GHz 8 Core - Mac OS X 10.11.6 - Logic Pro X 10.3.2 - Superior Drummer 3.1.7

[toondem]

Frustrating as a Windows user. The fact that this is unscalable -that I am forced to try and compensate by adjusting resolutions and monitors is terrible. I bought the program and never used it because of this fact. Bought an upgrade and some midi packs and retried and as of today, this has been wasted money. Program is unusable as it is now. Wasting space on my drive, really.

Seriously baffling that I can not maximize my window. Never seen a program that blanked this out. Can barely see the Song Creator- everything is so small.

It is forcing me to look for another drum machine package from another company. A scaling window will be my first priority so I don’t waste more money.

I need to see what I am doing.

-D

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