toontrack with Reason 9.5

[Christian Valdez]

How can I export the ezdrummer into different tracks using Reason 9.5? I already recorded my drums, but I want to be able to have all the instruments to individual tracks. Thanks.

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[John]

Hi,

if you mean using the separate outputs, I’d just create Mixer channels, tab to flip the rack and patch the cables, like in the screen shot.

BR,
John

John Rammelt - Toontrack
Technical Advisor

[JP Nogueira]

Hello John,

I’ve been trying that myself, and can’t put it working properly.

I think the Ezdrummer output choosen for each kit piece do not correspond to the Reason VST host Optional outputs. Don’t know if it’s clear what I mean.

Besides, if a Ezdrummer channel is in mono, should we route it in stereo in reason, or can we route to reason everything in mono and that way have 16 direct outputs and so 16 independent drum tracks?

Thanks for your help!
Best,

JP

PS: Tried to upload a template I just did but can’t upload reason song files.

[John]

Hi,

I attach a ZIPped Reason Song with EZdrummer 2 Multi Out assigned.
You can assign the mixer faders in the EZdrummer 2 mixer to which one of the 16 Stereo Outputs you like.
The PlugIn Outputs are all Stereo, so a Mono mic would be panned Center, if you are not splitting a Stereo Output into 2 mono mixer faders in the Reason mixer, then of course you pan L or R in the EZdrummer 2 mixer.

John Rammelt - Toontrack
Technical Advisor

[Pompeysie]

Hi John

The problem I am having is the fact that the in Reason I seem to be limited to 16 Stereo outputs from the VST Instrument “block” which I can route to 16 mix channels. The Superior Drummer mixer has, in my case, 22 outputs. Is there anything I can do here?

Many thanks

Simon

[John]

Hi,

currently there is a 16 outputs (8 Stereo) limit for VST instruments in Reason, so there’s nothing to do but submix in the Superior 2 mixer.

BR,
John

John Rammelt - Toontrack
Technical Advisor

[R V]

Hmm…I’m confused by this. Technically there are 16 mono outs from the reason rack (assuming you route them to 16 mono mixer channels). I can only use the first 8 of the channels within the EZDrummer when assigning outputs from the EZDrummer Mixer. Assigning anything higher does not seem to work in Reason 9.5 (regardless of stereo/mono). If I want to use each channel as mono, they must be within the first eight channels. Do I have this right?

[John]

Correct, currently Reason only recognises the first 8 Stereo (or 16 Mono, if you will ) of a VST.

John Rammelt - Toontrack
Technical Advisor

[R V]

Ok, finally got this figured out, and wow is this confusing.

For example, if you want to route your kick drum and snare drums to separate mono mixer channels, you have to select output 1 for each kick output in the EZDrummer mixer. Then you also have to pan each kick drum to the left in the EZDrummer mixer. Then you route output 1 from back of the EZDrummer rack in reason to only the mono (L) input channel on a reason mixer.

Then for snare, you still select output 1 in EZDrummer (for both top and bottom for example), pan each in the EZDrummer to the right, and take output 2 from EZDrummer into another mono input on another instance of a reason mixer.

Next the hi-hat, change the EZDrummer output to output #2 and pan left in the EZDrummer mixer.. On the back of the EZDrummer rack, you route output “3” to a mono track. Continue down the line this way to use all channels (assuming you want those as mono or whatever is needed).

The outputs listed on the back of the EZDrummer rack output, do not correspond to the output listed directly in the VST interface. Output 1 really means both output 1 and 2 on the back of the rack, but you must pan each in the EZDrummer mixer. This works (and it’s super confusing to even write this) , but can’t help but think this feels a little broken. .

I’ve attached the following routing, building upon John’s original routing, leveraging one of the original EZDrummer 2 kits (Original Mix), to reflect the use of all channels routed as separate as you can. This will unfortunately change with different library/kits you have to use to some extent. EZDrummer Mixer is all set to unity gain so I can control levels with the SSL mixer (the big reason I use Reason!) at roughly -12db to -15db or so adjusted via the input gain on the SSL mixer.

[lasha_1]

@RV729 said:
Ok, finally got this figured out, and wow is this confusing.

For example, if you want to route your kick drum and snare drums to separate mono mixer channels, you have to select output 1 for each kick output in the EZDrummer mixer. Then you also have to pan each kick drum to the left in the EZDrummer mixer. Then you route output 1 from back of the EZDrummer rack in reason to only the mono (L) input channel on a reason mixer.

Then for snare, you still select output 1 in EZDrummer (for both top and bottom for example), pan each in the EZDrummer to the right, and take output 2 from EZDrummer into another mono input on another instance of a reason mixer.

Next the hi-hat, change the EZDrummer output to output #2 and pan left in the EZDrummer mixer.. On the back of the EZDrummer rack, you route output “3” to a mono track. Continue down the line this way to use all channels (assuming you want those as mono or whatever is needed).

The outputs listed on the back of the EZDrummer rack output, do not correspond to the output listed directly in the VST interface. Output 1 really means both output 1 and 2 on the back of the rack, but you must pan each in the EZDrummer mixer. This works (and it’s super confusing to even write this) , but can’t help but think this feels a little broken. .

I’ve attached the following routing, building upon John’s original routing, leveraging one of the original EZDrummer 2 kits (Original Mix), to reflect the use of all channels routed as separate as you can. This will unfortunately change with different library/kits you have to use to some extent. EZDrummer Mixer is all set to unity gain so I can control levels with the SSL mixer (the big reason I use Reason!) at roughly -12db to -15db or so adjusted via the input gain on the SSL mixer.  

Hi RV729.
Can you upload screenshots of cable routing? Couldn’t do it myself.
I have demo version of Reason and can’t open file.

[R V]

Here you go…note that this is specific to the “original mix” preset in EZD2 Modern.

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Thanked by: Harry

[Harry]

Thank you RV729! I spent hours watching various YouTube videos trying to work this out in Reason 10.4…& your screenshot solved my difficulties in about 10 minutes!

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