Superior 2.0 & Roland V drums TD20

[7thheaven]

So I own a TON of toontrack stuff and a roland td20 v drum set

I am having a few problems, that i think someone on here can help me with

1 – on the superior kits they show TONS of cymbals and drums that i dont have triggers for and when my drummer hits a rim shot on the tom 3 it triggers a cymbal.. i have no clue how to change that.. is that something that i need to change in the roland brain or in superior 2.0.. i tried and had no luck in superior
which leads me to question # 2

2 – how do you create a custom kit that will always work perfectly with the kit i have.. for example.. 3 toms.. 2 cymbals.. ride, etc… so what i see on screen is same as i have…. i cannot find away to do this, everytime i try it doesn’t allow me to change a cymal trigger to a tom trigger.. it keeps on making it be a cymbal… how do i change this in 2.0?

3 – why doesn’t toontrack make set templates for a td 12 and td 20 kit?

4 – in the namm video it shows nir z playing hart dynamics… i purchased hart hats and ride and on the ride it only has ONE input jack, where the roland one has TWO trigger jacks… how will this work?

5 – my drummer triggered a hat where he lifted his foot off the controller pedal, which stopped some sustain on the hi hats.. i tried to find this edit in the midi in pro tools to edit it so it wouldn’t close and i can’t seem to find it on the edit window.. any advice where to find that type of info?

6 – the hi hats on the roland v drums react perfectly with the td 20 brain, but when they are ran thru the midi into toontrack the hi hats don’t seem to respond as well to velocity curves… as when a drummer let’s up on his foot to slowly open the hats… is there a solution to have the software react as well as the brain?

thanks for your help

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[Whitten]

Have you read the the manuals (Superior and TD20)?
You can’t expect it all to work perfectly out of the box.
Superior is designed to work with a variety of very different midi controllers, and the TD20 is designed to work perfectly with it’s own onboard sounds.
In other words, a small amount of tweaking, tailoring to your way of working is inevitable.
The things you ask are very simple to perform, if you sit with the TD 20 manual for example and follow the instructions step by step.
I borrowed a TD20 from Roland recently and had it working very well with Superior in half an hour – except for the hi-hats, which take a little more fine tuning to get really smooth I must admit.

[7thheaven]

i agree
im not afraid to tweek
my question is can this be done with the software or do i need to edit it on the hardware
should i focus more on the roland manual or the toontrack one (im not even sure i have a manual for it on editing)

the hi hats seems to be the real trick here… it seems to me that toontrack works off 3-4 velocity curves, where as the
roland brain seems to read all of the curves perfectly and react properly..

with all the users that use both of these products, im just surprised that a script preset wasn’t created yet for this exact thing

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[Rogue]

there is most certainly a rather useful manual delivered with Superior Drummer. You can call it from the ‘?’ menu in the top of the interface.

Assuming you have Superior 2.1.0, there are presets that will be adequate as a start up point, no trigger pad-module-drummer combination is the same so yes a bit of tweaking may be required. Page 34 to 37 of the most recent PDF manual will answer many of your questions. If any remain please post here and we’ll do our best to fill the gaps.

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[Whitten]

ORIGINAL: 7thheaven
5 – my drummer triggered a hat where he lifted his foot off the controller pedal, which stopped some sustain on the hi hats.. i tried to find this edit in the midi in pro tools to edit it so it wouldn’t close and i can’t seem to find it on the edit window.. any advice where to find that type of info?

On your main Pro Tools window there is the track info window to the far left.
Underneath R (record), S (solo) and M (mute) there is a toggle switch. It might say ‘notes’ or ‘region’.
Place your mouse over it and hold down. You should then see a list of all the available editable parameters: Blocks, regions, notes, velocity etc…
Drag it down to ‘controllers’ and release your mouse on ‘foot controller (4)’.
You should now see on the main window all your hi-hat foot pedal information.
I admit there is a bit of a learning curve to using a software recording product like Pro Tools, Superior and an e-kit, but the only way to get good results is to read the manuals and practice using their features.

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