SJC/Truth Superior Sample Library

[anshubhatia2]

I think it’s time for a new rock drum sample library. I know Truth already has their own (Kontakt [ugghh worst NI thing ever]) library, but obviously you could could do it better than anyone else. If you guys did a kickstarter to raise enough money to do it, I’d donate in a heart beat! With so many modern day drummers of so many different genres swearing by Truth or SJC, I really feel like it would be the best drum library to date.

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[Jay Coover]

Kontakt, the worst NI thing ever? You serious? It’s pretty clearly the best all-around sample player out there IMO. And certainly not the worst thing NI has ever come up with.

It’s kind of their flagship product and supports a huge percentage of the content that comes along with Komplete.

Massive is great, but if I had to choose between the two, Massive would go, easily. I can replace Massive. There’s nothing out there that can do what Kontakt can.

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[Whitten]

Ever heard of Noble & Cooley or Craviotto?

[Juicy]

Talking about Truth Drums t
They are Rockin. They know how to get excellent recorded sounds .
Actually their sample of the often sampled Ludwig Black Beauty is the best i have used.Fat,punchy and not too high or low in pitch .
I understand though,as i had to build my own EXs2 Logic Multi Layered,Multi Velocity Kit and it works/sounds great but the SD2 engine is more elegant and the mic bleed/rooms are easier to deal with.And My Kontact 8 kits are excellent but are over 3 pages of the interface to get what SD2 does on only 2.perhaps missing Individual outs for mics too.SD2 would do it better.

The Truth Toms and Kicks are Massive.I agree with the notion of combining their sounds and TT’s Engine, it simply would be amazing.
I am sure though both companies would not like to “give” too much so we may never see this happen. edit<

[VOLiTiAN]

ORIGINAL: fizbin

Kontakt, the worst NI thing ever? You serious? It’s pretty clearly the best all-around sample player out there IMO. And certainly not the worst thing NI has ever come up with.

It’s kind of their flagship product and supports a huge percentage of the content that comes along with Komplete.

Massive is great, but if I had to choose between the two, Massive would go, easily. I can replace Massive. There’s nothing out there that can do what Kontakt can.

Massive is great, but if I had to choose between the two, Massive would go, easily. I can replace Massive. There’s nothing out there that can do what Kontakt can.

Not entirely sure where you’re getting your opinions from, but there are a good few other manufacturers/developers who offer this same functionality, and like with all samplers, the library can be read pretty much universally (and *that* is Kontakts strong point, the libraries), however to make the use of the specialist features, scripts etc still have to be written – bespoke – to see any of those benefits, as it would do with any sampler.

The fact is you could easily replace most NI products (massive equivalents would be U-he Diva, Cakewalk Rapture, Dmitry Sches Diversion, Future Audio Workshop Circle etc etc), and especially in this instance as superior was designed for programming drums etc, whereas Kontakt clearly was never designed for this as it’s sole purpose and anyway who disagree’s clearly hasn’t used Kontakt extensively, in fact I’d have to say “at all” 🙂

Also are these pre-processed? It might be explain why you’re hearing the kit pieces sounding “better” than other sample sets….

Would still be nice to *sample* our own custom kit pieces and use them alongside/inside a TT kit to be able to put in the same room etc, but still managed by the SD interface….

Regards

D.

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[Jay Coover]

ORIGINAL: VOLiTiAN
Not entirely sure where you’re getting your opinions from

Ummm…me?

but there are a good few other manufacturers/developers who offer this same functionality

Name one.

and like with all samplers, the library can be read pretty much universally (and *that* is Kontakts strong point, the libraries),

Name one that can read a keyswitched, scripted Kontakt library, *that* is its strength.

however to make the use of the specialist features, scripts etc still have to be written – bespoke – to see any of those benefits, as it would do with any sampler.

Anything that can compete with the features of Kontakt is proprietary. Superior, Play, Spectrasonics, VSL, all fine, but *I* can’t create a sample library for them. Kontakt is open, so the comparisons are moot.

The fact is you could easily replace most NI products (massive equivalents would be U-he Diva, Cakewalk Rapture, Dmitry Sches Diversion, Future Audio Workshop Circle etc etc), and especially in this instance as superior was designed for programming drums etc, whereas Kontakt clearly was never designed for this as it’s sole purpose and anyway who disagree’s clearly hasn’t used Kontakt extensively, in fact I’d have to say “at all” 🙂

I use Kontakt extensively, since v1. I’ve written several Kontakt scripts. Google me. “Jay Coover” “fizbin”. I did the legatos for Westgate Studio. In the pantheon of Kontakt programmers, I am a lightweight, but to suggest that I am somehow confused between the features of Superior and Kontakt would be wrong. I appreciate what both Kontakt and Superior can do, and have never been bothered with comparing them as I’m very happy with both of them. IMO, they don’t compete, though I think Kontakt does a fine job with drums, aside from a few specialized things that Superior is capable of. I’d wager that most of the specialized stuff could be scripted in though.

Also are these pre-processed? It might be explain why you’re hearing the kit pieces sounding “better” than other sample sets….

Was this directed at me? I was quoted above it, but I don’t recall suggesting this.

Would still be nice to *sample* our own custom kit pieces and use them alongside/inside a TT kit to be able to put in the same room etc, but still managed by the SD interface….

That would be cool.

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