Silent ECymbal !!! proto 1 + 2

[artzra]

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[artzra]

   Proto 2
this evening it will arrive can be my second archetype of more presentable Ecymbal.

Having made with some “130°C play dough”

10 -15min 135 °C (275°F)

turn out of the tin (the realcymbal) with cold water

its take the brand  but its great flexible surface…

underside with  “silicone mastic“

once dry silicone mastic, I cut in silicone site of piezos

let us be mad!!

another one  70 min later 

[seanwhitley2000]

is the whole cymbal made from play dough? or is the real cymbal still attached?

[artzra]

is the whole cymbal made from play dough

it’s just the play dough… and after i take silicone mastic for the under side.

With the real cymbal :it is just the mould !!!

[artzra]

take sculpey for my ecymbale
how made exactly ::for the PM questions of http://www.toontrack.com/forum/showProfile.aspx?memid=21604

do not used the real cymbal after, you have a new plastic surface .

[RS]

I’m a little confused what the “130°C play dough” is.
Can you give me details of this product?
Brand? maybe a webshop link to this product?
 
I tried to search on google for “silicone mastic” but still not sure what this product is. 
 
 

[artzra]

 hy !!

http://www.ze-shop.com/boutik/default.php?product_id=2966#prodselected

and description here : excuse for 130° c its french : for you it’s  275 degree F

http://www.passionceramique.com/product_info.php?products_id=905&language=en

In first i use Sculpey !!

and afterwards I put down underside with Car Mastic restore !

because Mastic sillicone (mastic of room of bath ) is good for smoth the sound

but the mastic Car is hardler !!!”more solid “

[RS]

Ah, now I understand what it is, thanks!
 
For me it is 130°C, I’m from the Netherlands 😉
 
In your second post you wrote “but its great flexible surface”
 
Sculpey will be very hard when baked, isn’t it?
Is sculpey strong enough for hard hitters or is that the reason you use the car mastic, to make it stronger?
I would think the “clay” will easily break when you hit it hard.
 
Do you have a weblink to the car mastic you’ve used?
 
If I understand it correctly, you first make/bake a cymbal with Sculpey and after that you apply a layer of car mastic on the bottomside of the cymbal
That’s it?

[artzra]

 IT is not CLAY  its plastik  (dont made a spiral like my first cymbal  

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make a very uniform bowl if you want several colours it is well necessary to blend them favourably work them in hands to make them merge especially not abreast otherwise it parts.

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If I understand it correctly, you first make/bake a cymbal with Sculpey and after that you apply a layer of car mastic on the bottomside of the cymbal
That’s it?

YES

Sculpey will be very hard when baked, isn’t it?

surface hard and global little flexible !!  Thats why i put car mastic on the bottomside . because with the time the forme is let down !!

but with car mastic  no problem th forme is great !!

its an archetype, for  touch, and rebounds afterwards it is necessary that I test in real condition. I wait for my module this week. at the moment I them test one by one with a card sound and a directx auido / midi

I havent made of crash-test

because i wait the module to test the “compatibilité” of piezzo  * im french!!
i have just made one crash 10″ with mastic car . “over the piezzo” .
and that great because the piezzo don’t move now !!!

try try and try again !!

[RS]

I was too fast with my conclusion that it was “just” ordinary clay.
 
I think I’m gonna try Sculpey myself.
If it isn’t to my satisfaction, I’ll give the Sculpey to my kids 😉

[artzra]

Yes good idee !!!!

it’s great to your children too !!!

try with 2mm all the surface

like http://www.toontrack.com/forum/m.aspx?m=52816&mpage=1&key=

it’s the better way to do that ( like make a cake )

After i stop the effect with water clod !! 
but its the best to fix the sculpey in a good position !!
i
t will less be necessary to dry the cymbal and   clean it  without water for not which it rusts

[myron]

Couldn’t you use a set of pintech practice cymbals?

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[tazinnuedo]

DIY rules!!!!!!!!!

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