Roland TD9 with SD2.3

[Phillip.Adamss]

Hello everyone, This will probably be one of the easiest fixes and im probably completely missing something (I’ve only just started recording at home)

I have just recently purchased SD2.3 and my brother has a Roland TD-9. I’m trying to set it up so that we can use his kit to trigger the SD2.3 sounds which has been successful with a few glitches – The hi-hat pedal is triggering the floor tom and also the 2nd floor tom is triggering a china cymbal (He has 2 additional pads on the basic Roland TD-9)!

Have looked around for help for this and tried everything suggested but nothing has worked

I’m using the E-Drum setting (tried all of them) and also tried all of the pedal correction and it hasnt changed anything – I’m using Cubase5 mostly but have also tried to just use the Toontrack Solo software and that also didn’t change anything

Any advice or tips? Any help would be greatly appreciated!

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[John]

Hi,

if your TD-9 module is at Factory Settings, there really isn’t much more to it than loading the E-drums MIDI Preset and do some minor tweaks.
When you are using Toontrack solo as your host, you should NOT select the ‘E-drums’ type of MIDI Controller.
When you are using another (compatible) host, you need to make sure there is no active MIDI transformer/mapping function.

BTW, always make sure you have the latest available update installed, currently 2.3.1. The version number is always reported in the plugin interface, so it’s easy to check.

BR,
John

John Rammelt - Toontrack
Technical Advisor

[MartijnB]

Hello John,
but what kit do YOU or does Toontrack recommend for using as midicontroller for Superior Drummer?
Best regards,
Martijn Buiter

[Nathan]

John’s profile says he uses a Hart Pro kit with TD-12 and a Roland TD-3KV.

Damian (programmer) recommends the TD-12 module, don’t know what kit.

Maybe some others will chip in and give you their recommendations.

I use a Roland TD4 kit, but with PDX-6 and PDX-8 mesh heads. Looking for a TD-9 module.

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SD2.3, NYII, C&V, MC, MF, ED, Latin Perc, Twisted, Pop, N1H, Electronic, Classic, Funkmasters, Rock Solid, Blues, Indie-Folk.

[skip.black]

Below is a post from another site that helped me fix the hihat problem…as far as your floor tom triggering the china to the “construct” window and at the bottom right select “floortom 2” and also select “center” then hit the “learn” button and strike your floor tom 2 pad.

as for the hihat

All drums

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you want to clear out all articulations that are currently assigned a midi note and use SD2s learn function to re-assign all the note values to the correct articulation in SD, it won’t take long, and will work like a beast after, select each instrument in SD, click down in the bottom right, select each articulation and click ‘remove’ until you no longer see a note value in the little box above the remove/learn buttons, now hit learn and re-assign each pad, there is a turorial on these forums regarding the hi hats which will also only take a few minutes itself but is by far the most complicated part (that isnt complicated!)

Hihats with VH-11 in a DAW

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1. Create and Load Superior 2.0 in my Sonar project from the default “N.Y. – Avatar” state.

2. Right click the HiHat to select it (blue ring forms around the hi-hat graphic)

3. In the “Instrument” Pane (lower right hand corner), go through each Articulation one-by-one and press “remove” to completely clear out all default assignments. (most articulations have multiple assignments, so clear them all out. Doing this step ensures that there are no unanticipated HiHat events)

4. Play my VH-11 and exercise the pedal. Verify that Superior 2.0 triggers absolutely no sounds.

5. Mapping the pedal controller: Choose the “hatsCtrl”‘ articulation. Type ‘CC4’ in the Key field and press enter.

6. Mapping the Open edge zone: Choose the “hatsTrig” articulation. Leave the HiHat pedal open completely. Press “Learn”. Strike the edge of the HiHat with stick. Should result in a mapped Key of ”D0″. (or if you are viewing MIDI Notes as Numbers: 26)

7. Mapping the Open bow zone: Choose the “hatsTipTrig” articulation. Leave the HiHat pedal open completely. Press “Learn”. Strike the bow of the HiHat with stick. Should result in a mapped Key of “A#1”. (or if you are viewing MIDI Notes as Numbers: 46)

That gets me the full range of Open sounds while playing the hats and using the pedal. Now for the Closed Edge and Bow sounds, foot chick and foot splash.

8. Mapping the Closed edge zone: Choose the “hatsTrig” articulation. Step on the HiHat pedal to close it (important: do that before you Press “Learn”). Press “Learn”. Strike the edge of the HiHat with stick. Should result in an additional mapped key of “A#-1” to the “hatsTrig” articulation. (or if you are viewing MIDI Notes as Numbers: 22). You can view all mapped keys to an articulation by right clicking in the Key field.

9. Mapping the Closed bow zone: Choose the “hatsTipTrig” articulation. Step on the HiHat pedal to close it (important: do that before you Press “Learn”). Press “Learn”. Strike the bow of the HiHat with stick. Should result in an additional mapped key of “F#1” to the “hatsTipTrig” field. (or if you are viewing MIDI Notes as Numbers: 42)

10. Mapping the Foot chick and Foot splash: Choose the “Closed Pedal” articulation. With the HiHat open, press “Learn”. Step on the HiHat to close it. Should result in a mapped key of “G#1”. (or if you are viewing MIDI Notes as Numbers: 44)

Some final notes: The TD-10/VH-11 combo does not have “pressure sensing” on the HiHat to obtain Tight sounds by pressing the pedal harder. But the Tight articulation is being used with the pedal closed normally. If you desire just the Closed articulation sounds in that position, you can map the notes from steps 8 and 9 above to the “Closed” and “ClosedTip” articulations respectively. You will no longer access “Tight” sounds.

If you like the way your HiHat is working, Save your MIDI Preset now so that you have a starting point to load just the HiHat (it requires the most tweaking, the rest of the kit is quick and easy to map with the “learn” feature).

Print this out and take it with you when you go to adjust the HH articulations.

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Once you get it set up like you’d like, SAVE the kit as a preset… it will remember the HH stuff. This also works with a CY-5 / FD7 combo like I have.

Choke

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Do not use MUTE

Choke in Superior 2.0

Pretty simple actually…
1. Highlight the cymbal you wish to edit by right clicking it…it will turn blue.
2. In the envelope area, move the switch to the “Aftertouch” position.
3. Type in 110ms Release.
4. Enable Envelope settings on top right. It will turn blue when activated.
5. Click Learn and choke your cymbal. You’ll get something like ATA2 or ATC#2

Test your cymbal, it should now choke.
5. You have to do this for each cymbal.
6. Remember to save project, and you will have cymbal chokes from now on.

Do not use MUTE

[Olof Westman]

Note that support for Superior Drummer is not given in this
open-for-all E-drum forum. If you want support for how to
make Superior work well with E-drums than you should
go to the Superior Drummer support forum.

Olof Westman - Toontrack
Coder

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