Redundant Sonalksis Plug-ins

[MouseClickDrummer]

(The following complaint is directed mainly at Sonalksis).

I’m confused, the plug-ins included with S2 are not the greatest plug-ins so why did the company even bother to deal with sonalksis for such extremely stripped down plug-ins within the S2 inserts?  The EQ is half decent but only for basic overal shaping and nothing very precise.  And the compressor is ok for cyms and hats but not punchy at all for rapid double kick…  for double kick you cannot insert it on the kick bus, you need two of them on each kick channel because going fast will not be punchy still like the UAD SSL 4k or G series bus compressor at high double kick speeds still. 

Even the transient designer is not very tight and doesn’t come close to the UAD one.   Are there better improved plug-ins on the newest update because I think I am still on an S2 version from 6 months back.

And why can you not even see the point of your low or high pass filter sweep on the filter insert????  There is no numerical readout – the guesswork is not ideal.   Was there even a point to include these very low-end plug-ins?  These things are close to being an abomination.  I am surprised because the Superior 2 drum sampler is a very high end and a nice product – but these included plug-ins are butchery. I mean, not even the ability to get a relatively narrow Q on the EQ, not even reasonably narrow for more focused minor boosting of specific frequencies.  

I am not sure what to further comment on the sonalksis attempt to give S2 a somewhat reasonable collaboration here – but all i know is that they have definitely not treated TT seriously at all for this project and TT has been given the rough end of the stick. 

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[Scott]

Astounding as usual Farbeyond…

Scott Sibley - Toontrack
Technical Advisor

[Whitten]

+1

[stephenpaulharper]

I’ve never used Sonalkis plugins, but from what I’ve read, they have a decent reputation.  However, I agree that the FX included with SD2 are rather featureless.  I think it would be great if TT added a dozen or so presets for each plugin, as they’re a little hard to manipulate for me.  A convolution reverb would be a godsend, but I read in another thread that it wasn’t going to happen.  I don’t really see what the big deal is though.  For the longest time, BFD didn’t have any FX at all.  By the same token, if you’re going to include FX, they should be at least as good as the parent product.

My two cents.

Windows 10, REAPER, ADK edrums, Mimic Pro and DDTi TMIs

[Tom]

I am sure Sonalksis could deliver absolutely excellent plugins for Superior 2. If you check the prices in their homepage, you could get an idea about what such plugins would cost.

I don’t use their plugins in Toontrack, but I still think it is a good idea to have them for users to share presets and to buy the relatively cheap presets Toontrack offers. Then you can do the same thing with your UAD2 or Sonnox plugins each of which cost roughly the same as the entire Superior 2 basic package.

[MouseClickDrummer]

ORIGINAL: tombuur

I am sure Sonalksis could deliver absolutely excellent plugins for Superior 2. If you check the prices in their homepage, you could get an idea about what such plugins would cost.

I don’t use their plugins in Toontrack, but I still think it is a good idea to have them for users to share presets and to buy the relatively cheap presets Toontrack offers. Then you can do the same thing with your UAD2 or Sonnox plugins each of which cost roughly the same as the entire Superior 2 basic package.

I guess you are right.  We cannot expect UADs in the S2 mixer.  And actually, I want to make one correction – the transient designer I find works well on snare but not tight enough on low frequencies such as for kick.  EQ is not bad for cyms on high end… and mid bass is ok…   but same thing, as you get to the low end I just find that accuracy just drops and it loses focus.  This is strange.  The filter is ok but there is no numerical intication of your cut-off point.  And sometimes I like a touch of a narrow boost at around 500-515k for certain snares that resonate around that range but I cannot narrow the focus enough to that, so i have to increase the release time of the transient designer but its not the same intended feel of cosu.  Am i the only one irritated to death by these things?

[Whitten]

I use other plugs for detailed and extensive modifying.

[redlogic]

ORIGINAL: Whitten

I use other plugs for detailed and extensive modifying.

+1

Macmini 2019 3.2 GHz 6-Core i7, 32GB RAM, MacOS 10.15.2, LogicProX 10.4.8, FF400, UAD2 Satellite Octo

[Oli Poulsen]

It’s a 3 year old piece of software…lots of things have happened in the sound processing department the last 3 years.
But the plug-ins were good for their time…and I use them all the time still.
Mostly miss having a saturator and a reverb inside the mixer.

I suppose they are working hard on S3.0 …and on implementing all their experience from the EZmix technology into the new superior mixer.

NI are coming with a “drummer” and Slate is as well…so I bet they are due with something exciting to stay ahead of the competition

Pro Tools 10 HD3 MacPro Quad 2.66 OSX 6.8 DTXtreme III special All S2.0 packs iMac 27 3.4 i7 OSX 8.2 Pro Tools 10 HD

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