Recommended V-Drum for recording with SD 2.0?

[Andre Favreau]

If I only intend to use my V-Drum with SD 2.0 (NY Vol. 2) and for recording, can someone recommend me the best Roland Drum for that? I don’t want to pay extra for sounds I’m not gonna use, but I don’t don’t want to miss on MIDI conversion and accuracy. Thanks

ANDRE FAVREAU Mac Pro 2006, OS X.9, RME Fireface 800, MOTU MIDI Express XT, SD 2.0 with New York SDII, Indie Kit, Stylus, Omnisphere, Trilian, Ivory with Italian Exp. Melodyne.

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[Jason Hood]

Second hand TD15K, and only for the extra crash and tom input. Sell the PDX6’s that come with it, replace with 1 PDX8 from the bay. Pick up a 12″ snare pad, move PDX8 from snare to other tom. Get Vh11 from the bay, then worry about 15″ ride, use 13″ ride as crash, done. small pads = BAD. Concentrate on larger rack toms and snare first. Use the PDX8 on toms because hotspot free, and a 12″ or larger snare feels right. 30kv a waste if using VST’s.

[Andre Favreau]

So is the only advantage of the of the TD-15 over the TD-11 the extra tom you can add? Do you think the MIDI conversion is as good in the TD-11 as the TD-15? Doesn’t the TD-30 have the advantage of offering positional sensing? Is that an advantage with SD 2.0?

ANDRE FAVREAU Mac Pro 2006, OS X.9, RME Fireface 800, MOTU MIDI Express XT, SD 2.0 with New York SDII, Indie Kit, Stylus, Omnisphere, Trilian, Ivory with Italian Exp. Melodyne.

[Jason Hood]

15 gains two extra trigger inputs over 11. Labeled Aux and crash 2. Internally the 15 has more instruments (500 vs 196) stock kits (50 vs 25) and more user kit storage (50 vs 25), ability to send click to phones only (not stereo out), 10 FX, quick edit access to tuning, muffling, snare strainer, tempo synced illumination ring around jog dial, and kit chain function. A lot of these are irrelevant if using for triggering only. Plus as the toms are stereo for head/rim triggering, you can get y splitters to add additional playing surfaces (losing the ability to trigger rims) With the exception of positional sensing the sound engine is the same as TD30. Td30 has individual outs against the lesser modules stereo L R only. Don’t know how easy it is to route out of DAW via TD30 outs (when used as sound card), but once done make a template. Positional sensing, I’m sure I would love, but I can’t justify the jump in price for it. Waiting for it to trickle down the line. I you can afford it, TD30K for sure, but on a budget like me, the 15K doesn’t leave me wanting (except for some pad upgrades as I mentioned other post) http://www.roland.co.uk/blog/whats-the-difference-roland-td-11-and-td-15-electronic-drum-kits http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roland_V-Drums

[Jason Hood]

Forgot MIDI conversion. I’m running Logic 9 on 2010 Mac mini, core2duo 2.66, Focusrite saffire 56 Firewire interface, TD15 over USB. I record SD drums, bass and guitars together. Bass/Guitars in Amplitube 3 (eco mode), maybe some waves or ezmix plugs on master bus/drum channels. FW driver set to lowest latency, logic at 256 sample buffer, latency imperceptible. If I’ve been mixing at 1024 buffer and forget to lower it before playing again, the latency is like a flam with a silent first stick, if you get what I mean. Your fireface could have half the latency of the Focusrite if what they say about RME drivers is true.

[Andre Favreau]

Maybe I’m missing something, but I also see a Crash 2 input on the TD-11. About MIDI conversion in the module, I mean, don’t some module have a better ability to convert trigger signal to MIDI better than others or is it all the same on that level? What I’m afraid of is that I use to have a TD-3 and when it came to Hi-Hat and Ride subdivisions (CY-5 and CY-8), there were a lot of inconsistent things being recorded, and so I had to do a lot of editing.

ANDRE FAVREAU Mac Pro 2006, OS X.9, RME Fireface 800, MOTU MIDI Express XT, SD 2.0 with New York SDII, Indie Kit, Stylus, Omnisphere, Trilian, Ivory with Italian Exp. Melodyne.

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