Question for td 20 users please help

[norrie]

Hey all! First off I love my toontrack products and...

Hey all!

First off I love my toontrack products and couldnt ask for anything better but I have one problem….

I have everything sounding awesome when I sit back and play a nice mellow groove but….

If I hit singel hits on the snare then all is good or even a very basic snare roll nothing fast and no problem all sounds great but ….

when I go to play a very very fast snare roll for some reason its like I am missing hits I know I am not missing them because if I go back and use the sounds straight out the td20 brain they are there clear as day but if I am useing it in toontrack it sounds like I am not hiting all the strokes but iam.

Sorry if I havent explaned this very well.

I have my set up with close curv 2 on for the high hats and the kits sound awesome every thing sounds great even very very fast high hat work, tom rolls or double kick work just this snare problem and its holding me back a bit. as I have a song to record for someone and there for its holding them back as well. ( you get where I am comeing from)

The td20 brain is all set at factory default.

could it be a problem with the trigger set up in my td20 brain ?

Would makeing the skin tighter on the kit make a difference ?

Could it be becasue I am not hiting dead center every time ? I think I am but If I wasnt would there be a way to change this so it sounds ok for every stroke ?

I am clutching at straws for ideas here guys and hope someone can help.

It just seems weird every other drum is fine but not this one.

Any ideas what could be causeing this ? Is it a problem with the trigger set up in my td20 brain ? The brain is all set at factory default.

Could it be something i need to change in SD2?

Like I say everything else is awesome but I just dont understand whats going wrong with the snare.

I also should maybe have said its like this on every snare in SD2 and all the extra packs I have bought

You have all been great with help on eveything so far so I am keeping my fingers crossed to get this working for me asap

Thanks so much guys 🙂

Norrie

Windows 7 (64 bit ) Intel I7 930 12GB OCZ Gold Sonar 8.5 Producer VS700r VS700c Superior 2 / MF/NY EZ mix Roland TD-20

Hey all!

First off I love my toontrack products and couldnt ask for anything better but I have one problem….

I have everything sounding awesome when I sit back and play a nice mellow groove but….

If I hit singel hits on the snare then all is good or even a very basic snare roll nothing fast and no problem all sounds great but ….

when I go to play a very very fast snare roll for some reason its like I am missing hits I know I am not missing them because if I go back and use the sounds straight out the td20 brain they are there clear as day but if I am useing it in toontrack it sounds like I am not hiting all the strokes but iam.

Sorry if I havent explaned this very well.

I have my set up with close curv 2 on for the high hats and the kits sound awesome every thing sounds great even very very fast high hat work, tom rolls or double kick work just this snare problem and its holding me back a bit. as I have a song to record for someone and there for its holding them back as well. ( you get where I am comeing from)

The td20 brain is all set at factory default.

could it be a problem with the trigger set up in my td20 brain ?

Would makeing the skin tighter on the kit make a difference ?

Could it be becasue I am not hiting dead center every time ? I think I am but If I wasnt would there be a way to change this so it sounds ok for every stroke ?

I am clutching at straws for ideas here guys and hope someone can help.

It just seems weird every other drum is fine but not this one.

Any ideas what could be causeing this ? Is it a problem with the trigger set up in my td20 brain ? The brain is all set at factory default.

Could it be something i need to change in SD2?

Like I say everything else is awesome but I just dont understand whats going wrong with the snare.

I also should maybe have said its like this on every snare in SD2 and all the extra packs I have bought

You have all been great with help on eveything so far so I am keeping my fingers crossed to get this working for me asap

Thanks so much guys 🙂

Norrie

Windows 7 (64 bit ) Intel I7 930 12GB OCZ Gold Sonar 8.5 Producer VS700r VS700c Superior 2 / MF/NY EZ mix Roland TD-20

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[bridger]

norrie, I noticed that you use Sonar 8. Currently, I use Sonar 6 PE but this may apply to your program as well. I was having a similar problem a while back and eliminated it by ( in Sonar ) going to Options – Global – General tab – Uncheck Always Echo Current Midi Tracks. I’m pretty sure that solved the trigger problem. I have had to do so much since adding Superior Drummer that I’m not positive though.

[norrie]

Cheers man I will try that aswell but everything else is awesome just the snare

I will be working my way through all the diferent ways people here have said and I am sure I will get it fixed 😀

Norrie

Windows 7 (64 bit ) Intel I7 930 12GB OCZ Gold Sonar 8.5 Producer VS700r VS700c Superior 2 / MF/NY EZ mix Roland TD-20

[norrie]

Hey guys so I have narrowed it all down to one problem!!!!

The bloody edrum seting in the midi set up!!!!

It seems to make the snair do weird things but I get a perfict roll if i dont load the edrum setting but…..

That puts me back to the way of the 3rd and4th tom rims not makeing the right sound so I will need to map that to the tom rims my self ?

Also my high hat is back to being crap again haha only an open sound ive tryed all the close curve setinggs etc etc nothing works only open sound unless I put my ful weight down on the high hat pedal and I meen really force it down so tha isint good for it then I would get a closed hat sound

So still a few things to work on but I am on the right path ? I think :S

Norrie

Windows 7 (64 bit ) Intel I7 930 12GB OCZ Gold Sonar 8.5 Producer VS700r VS700c Superior 2 / MF/NY EZ mix Roland TD-20

[Damian Blunt]

As per my last post it sound as if it’s the relative volume levels of the edge and center hits that need tweaking.  Did you try my suggestion?
 
If you don’t want to use the positional sensing on the snare load the edrums preset as normal and use the MIDI learn feature in Superior 2 to assign a regular ‘center’ snare hit instead of snaretrig (the positional snare arrticulation).  Refer to page 46 of the latest manual if you need a further explanation of how to do this.

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