Eric Shults Just got PT 8 and Superior 2.1 set-up and was wondering if someone could point me in the right direction on detailed instructions on how to get this to work in Pro Tools?
First off, I am using a Hart electric drumset with the Roland TD-3 module. My whole purpose in buying this set software is to use the superb sounds off of Superior instead of the entry level Roland TD-3 sounds while recording my bands music. I would appreciate any info you guys can give to make it easier. Being a rock drummer, I do not know a whole lot about midi. I am using a Fast Track ULtra 8R interface from M-Audio.
The manual for Superior says to select my drum TD-3 module from DVD 1- I opened up DVD 1 and I cannot find it. So I am a little confused.
Thanks in advance for your time.
Just got PT 8 and Superior 2.1 set-up and was wondering if someone could point me in the right direction on detailed instructions on how to get this to work in Pro Tools?
First off, I am using a Hart electric drumset with the Roland TD-3 module. My whole purpose in buying this set software is to use the superb sounds off of Superior instead of the entry level Roland TD-3 sounds while recording my bands music. I would appreciate any info you guys can give to make it easier. Being a rock drummer, I do not know a whole lot about midi. I am using a Fast Track ULtra 8R interface from M-Audio.
The manual for Superior says to select my drum TD-3 module from DVD 1- I opened up DVD 1 and I cannot find it. So I am a little confused.
Thanks in advance for your time.
BradIf the drums are recorded as MIDI, quantization is your friend… like oregano in cooking, don’t over do it. Depending on how much ‘attack’ is apparent in the keyboard track you can experiment with beat detective. Did your keyboard player record audio only or did he track MIDI as well?
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BradAlways track your drums as midi events (this is the beauty of SD2). All is not lost though… are the drums recorded on seperate tracks?
My problem is… I shouldn’t try and deal with more than one thing at a time.
Were the drums recorded as midi events? If no; look at drumtracker… if yes… see above OR just do it again as midi…
Were the keyboards recorded as midi events? If no; look at beat detective…
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Eric ShultsBrad, the drums haven’t been recorded yet. I tried to record them last night from your instructions, but when I did, I found out the keyboards are off from the click track of 63. The keyboards are what I need to fix. The drums haven’t been laid down yet. I couldn’t because it drove me crazy be out of time in certain parts. LOL!
Bradphew… OK… I can go back to talking about one thing again… Beat Detective is probaby going to be the tool you reach for in this case, although there are some other time stretching options in PT 8, I have only used beat detective.
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Eric Shults I didn’t realize you could really use beat detective on keyboards, I always figured it was for drums only. That’s cool.
Maybe I can figure it out. Never used, but never needed to until now!
Brad Try this; there’s a ton of beat detective videos out on youtube, this is just a simple step by step for beat detective and E.A.
http://audio.tutsplus.com/tutorials/mixing-mastering/how-to-quantize-audio-in-protools-using-beat-detective-and-elastic-audio/
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SevensvoxHere’s some other videos showing the “Time Elastic Properties” in PT 7.4 and 8.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZ3fVYLqXgU&feature=related
This other video is related to “Quantizing Audio” with Elastic Properties
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ysr0IlABpw&feature=related
This video is probably the most informative out of the bunch….. guy does a good job at explaining using “Time Elastic Properties” well
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Ixu1kzOO5Y&feature=related
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BradYou know I played around with EA when it first came out, but old habits die hard. However after a little experimentation, quantizing in EA is definitely superior (no pun intended) to beat detective.
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RogueORIGINAL: JrummerJ
Just make sure to NOT have the CC offset option checked in Solo as Pro Tools doesn’t have that magic little option. You need to get the kit playing good without that and then it will work just the same in PTs.
some more food for thoughts on this aspect. First of all the CC offset option probably would be detrimental when using a FD-8 (assuming the stock controller is in use with the TD-3) although it may help with the short travel typically observed from this controller and an acceptable compromise overall.
That said Superior 2.1 has several ‘pedal correction’ presets that are helpful in this scenario. ‘More Open’ should probably improve the response from a FD-8, although this is not an exact science due to variability from unit to unit (as in your FD-8 may be responding quite differently than mine). ‘sharp curve 1’ may feel more suitable for some users (YMMV).
Anyway the main here is that everything that was previously only available in solo can be reproduced in S2.1, with a more refined approach. Check the new edrum section of the manual for details.
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