PM16 trigger to midi problem

[air-v]

Hi all,
I’m pretty news in the Edrum World, but i’ve got big MIDI experience.
Recently i’m trying to convert a A to E drum, i’ve cup in the middle a 12′ tom , use all things needed.
My trigger machine is a old PM16 bought 50€, connect to any kind of midi module (but at least should control a VST drum program).
My first tom created working very fine on TD12 module (fine enough then my father in law ask me to create one as chrismas gift for him :D) but with PM16 module (the level trigger is setup to max and in mic mode wich is better the piezzo mode), the roll response is not the same. Like midi notes are not fast enough from the module thru midi.
Have you any idea if it’s module problem from trigger to midi or just a trigger level not loud enough??

Many thanks

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[PFozz]

Hi Air-V,

The PM-16 has been designed to be used with rubber pads and microphones.
It’s still an excellent option for studio when you want to “midify” mic’ed acoustic drums.

As you probably know, a “mesh head” trigger usually can’t produce a signal that is as strong as the one produced by a rubber pad and you’re right about the “MIC” position (this is the one to use).

Unfortunately, if the input your trigger is connected to is set to “MIC” / Level=Max, there’s no easy solution to make the all thing work “naturally”.
Though, you may also try various MIN VELOCITY and THRESHOLD values to get better results.

You may also re-design your trigger, but this is obviously not a good idea.
Some years ago, my “mesh head” triggers were specifically designed to work with my PM-16 and later, I totally rebuilt them so they better match my TD-8.

In any case, the PM-16 is still an excellent secondary module and it’s worth the 50€ you paid to get one. I’ll personnally never sell mine 😉
I still use my PM-16 for extra mono cymbals and exotic (mono) triggers but I must admit I don’t use it anymore for my BD, SD or Toms…

Best regards.

www.eareckon.com

[mikentosh]

What a cool site! I think I was here once years ago. Seeing the PM-16 post reminded me that I have a PM-16, a couple of Roland pads (with triggers in the 3 rimsa+pad) and s Roland MT-32 sound generator….A friend gave them to me in the early ’90’s….wow, and I’m thinking I have no idea how to use the PM-16 anymore! I kinda remember having to set some channels and banks or something….Man, Its been a long, long time since I last used them….

I’ve been wanting to put together an e-drum set for a long time now….maybe I’ll take my pads+interface and start a project…I already have an SR-16. I could start off with just a bass, snare, HH, and a cymble maybe…?

Gotta start rounding-up some parts!

-mike

[PFozz]

Thank you mikentosh for the kind words and welcome to this forum !

Best regards,
PFozz

www.eareckon.com

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