Need riding crash and splashes in SD

[Michael]

My browser just got wacky, so forgive me if this is a double post.

First, I love SD2. After step sequencing on a keyboard for the last 10 years, this program is a blessing.
That said, there are 2 things I would suggest.

1) add some small splashes in the default SD kits. You gave us larger, long ringing splashes, but some small, high pitched, cut-through-the-mix splashes would be nice. It looks as if there are some on Metal Foundry (which I will be getting soon), but 2 (at LEAST 1) with the defaults would be appreciated.

2) the ability to easily “ride” the crash. You know…smashing the crash on every beat when the song picks up and needs powerful, repeated crashes. I submitted a post on the subject and got some very helpful tips:

http://www.toontrack.com/forum/tm.aspx?m=97846

It happens all the time in many rock/pop styles. When you try in SD, it cycles through articulations and doesn’t sound natural. There were some good work-arounds advised to me in the post, but a simplified way to do it would be helpful to many people. Now, I have no idea how you would go about recording that-but hey, you guys are the brains behind it all!

Thanks again for a wonderful program and keep ’em coming!

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[prr]

Hi, I use superior with the splash’s from the ezx drum kit from hell, it works awesome. Infact thats all all go the ezx for.

[Whitten]

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2) the ability to easily “ride” the crash. You know…smashing the crash on every beat when the song picks up and needs powerful, repeated crashes.

It happens all the time in many rock/pop styles. When you try in SD, it cycles through articulations and doesn’t sound natural.

I don’t think that’s the problem.
All samples in all software drum products are sampled from a standing start so to speak, So a crash is silent, then it’s struck and is sampled.
When you are crash riding, the crash is already sounding, and importantly already vibrating quite a lot. This results in a different sound than starting with a silent, non vibrating cymbal.
I’m not sure what the basic recording workaround would be, but the playback workarounds that are typically suggested here seem to work ok.

[Damian Blunt]

Some Roland modules use a system they call ‘interval control’ where the attack of a note is adjusted depending on how quick notes are triggered in succession….useful for buzz rolls and cymbal swells….or riding the crash.

You could try using a duplicate x-drum of the crash cymbal that you wish ride and soften the attack on this. You could then experiment with incorporating this x-drum cymbal into your performance.

Damian Blunt - Toontrack
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