Mixing in DAW

[Sonny Luciano]

Hey all,
So I dragged my MIDI files from EZDrummer2 to my DAW (protools 10), I made some changes to some parts within the DAW’s MIDI editor that cannot be done (or I haven’t figured how to) in EZDrummer2 i.e, added single kick, snare cymbals, odd timings of hits etc.,. But that leaves me in a situation where I can’t route EZD2 via the multi-channel options to my DAW in order to mix the kit, both individual parts and the kit as a whole because those parts are not in EZD2.
Any advice or suggestions?

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[Scott Eshleman]

Please clarify,

@Ibex said:
… because those parts are not in EZD2.

By ‘parts’, do you mean additional kit pieces not played by EZD2,
or do you mean MIDI ‘hits’ that you’ve added?

[Sonny Luciano]

Both, pieces I added in my DAW and added hits here and there.

[Sonny Luciano]

@Scott E said:
Please clarify,

@Ibex said:
… because those parts are not in EZD2.

By ‘parts’, do you mean additional kit pieces not played by EZD2,
or do you mean MIDI ‘hits’ that you’ve added?  

Both, pieces I added in my DAW and added hits here and there.

[Henrik]

it doesn’t matter where you have the MIDI – in EZdrummer 2 or the DAW – the audio routing still work the same! Google “EZdrummer 2 multi out Pro Tools” and you should get plenty of tutorials.

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[Sonny Luciano]

@Henrik said:
it doesn’t matter where you have the MIDI – in EZdrummer 2 or the DAW – the audio routing still work the same! Google “EZdrummer 2 multi out Pro Tools” and you should get plenty of tutorials.  

It does matter. Once I check on the follow host button in order to not follow the host, it will only play the midi inside my DAW and not EZD2. SO, if I routed out, which I know how to do, in order to mix drums outside of EZD2, I would have to engage the follow host button in EZD2 .I have made changes to the MIDI in my DAW and not in EZD2, so whatever I did, does not play in EZD2, because the changes are not playing from EZD2, but playing from the MIDI file in the DAW.

The reason I do not follow host is because of the phase issue EZD2 has while playing MIDI in the DAW at the same time and the inconsistent levels in velocity within EZD2 drum parts.

[Scott Eshleman]

@Sonny Luciano said:
Both, pieces I added in my DAW and added hits here and there.

As Henrik has said, “it doesn’t matter where you have the MIDI…“
if EZD2 is the instrument that is playing the MDI editted & hosted in your DAW
then the multi-output routing configured in the EZD2 mixer will apply.

Obviously, the kit pieces & MIDI not played by an instance of EZD2 will not be routed through the EZD2 mixer,
but you could bus the multiple EZD2 outputs and those ‘extra’ kit pieces played
by another instrument to a shared AUX to mix them blended.

[Brad]

I hope I am following along properly; you have MIDI in an EZD2 groove track, you have taken that MIDI and dragged in to PT and made some adjustments. So now, there’s 2 versions of a groove playing when you hit “play” on the PT transport (when you have follow host enabled with EZD2). The double hits are causing phase and no doubt other unpleasant things to be heard. (I do hope I understand properly)… if this is the case can you remove the overlapping MIDI in EZD2 where you have your edited MIDI in PT?

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[Nicholas DiFabbio]

The sound engine inside EZ (and how it’s routed) is reacting to midi being sent to it, whether from inside or from the DAW. A bass drum doesn’t care if it’s on a stereo mix bus or on a separate output, It plays either way. Check your settings and connections. It doesn’t matter if EZ is following host or not.

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