Just a wild idea to make upgrade possible for those with data cap on internet

[Lars Fossum]

All upgrade is download, and 200 GB download is not an options for me with 40 GB monthly data cap.
Which basically is used for the most part for game patch downloads for xbox.
It would probably mean a year to get that down for SD3, if it even can be done in parts.

SSD option – my daw computer is maxed out all four SATA connections so buying that and install on other computer in netork, and then transfer to hdd.
So buying all new SD3 license is the cheapest option then, unless you can just do SD3 engine upgrade and never use new kits.

Just as feedback to Toontrack, that not all users have such internet option to upgrade.
I have 70 GB sample library that vendor helped out, and I sent some 64 GB thumb drives – and they transferred that to those and sent back to me solving that.

Just a wild idea – to offer such an option – or upgrade with discs and not just download.
Some vendors like Steinberg offer sending disc as option for Halion when ordering in their store.
Extra cost of course, if it was €15 or something to get DVDs sent to you.

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[Scott Eshleman]

With the George Massenberg SD3 library clocking in at over 230GB,
I believe the math works out to over 50 DVDs!!
A ‘wild idea’ indeed.

[Lars Fossum]

Well, there is full boxed version – that does not say “download” as upgrade version says.
So how is that done?
What is production cost for that – just have that as separate option for download version too – just as Steinberg Halion has for content on that stuff?

I belive dual layer DVD are about 9.5 GB so half your suggested amount, 25 disks, is my guess.
Then there is BD media which would mean 4-5 Bluray disks.

If you want physical media as backup as well, that is offered on some more products I’ve had over the years even.

Just give us payed options – and everybody wins. Everybody that wants to upgrade – can do that.

Everytime I download a patch for xbox game – it says “connection charges may apply” or similar.
So it’s not like uncommon with data cap on internet.

[Scott]

You can purchase the S3 library fully installed on an SSD.

https://www.toontrack.com/product/superior-drummer-3-ssd-disk/

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[Lars Fossum]

Thank you, yes, but as mentioned in first post – all my SATA connections are occupied.

I use 128 GB SDXC cards for cameras, two of those would suffice – or similar as usb – would be half price compared to SSD(about £50 each in small numbers).
Think optical media is cheaper each GB.

If download manager has plenty separate options to do downloads in partials – probably big improvement as well.
Not sure if it’s just one chunk now, or already so.

Just throwing wild general ideas, that might be appreciated by many.

When Halion 6 was released Steinberg they did not have physical media option for upgrades/crossgrades.
A year later they did – so many people probably asked the same questions as I – can we have content on physical media at an additional cost?

I think EU had plans that 2025 everybody should have 100 Mbps fiber – until then quite a few have data caps.
At 2020 50% at 5G, which might still have data cap I assume, as 4G has now.

[Olof Westman]

The SSD option is an external USB drive, not an internal SATA drive.

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[Scott Eshleman]

@Nip said:
Thank you, yes, but as mentioned in first post – all my SATA connections are occupied.

I use 128 GB SDXC cards for cameras, two of those would suffice – or similar as usb – would be half price compared to SSD(about £50 each in small numbers).
Think optical media is cheaper each GB. 

Perhaps it’s not clear but the (optional) 256 GB solid-state drive (SSD) with USB 3.0 connector is an external drive.

The full 230GB George Massenberg SD3 library is set up for download in 5 segments
and a series of progressively larger installation options with progressively more microphones, bleed, etc.

PS. Regarding SDXC cards, you’d need a 256GB card and a card reader that supports it.
Unless you can configure multiple cards into a RAID across multiple card readers as mentioned above.

[Lars Fossum]

OK, did not know about USB 3 drive – but have only usb 2 so probably not doable for realtime use.
Did a little benchmark once . copying to external drives – and it was five times slower than internal.

I tried to find a lower build height graphics card to use that slot not covered for usb 3 controller card.

General idea from me with solid state media was mostly as distribution to copy to harddrive, that wasn’t good enough really for realtime reading.

Anyway, idea is out there – maybe it’s not a good one…..

[Scott]

@Nip said:
OK, did not know about USB 3 drive – but have only usb 2 so probably not doable for realtime use.
Did a little benchmark once . copying to external drives – and it was five times slower than internal.

I tried to find a lower build height graphics card to use that slot not covered for usb 3 controller card.

General idea from me with solid state media was mostly as distribution to copy to harddrive, that wasn’t good enough really for realtime reading.

Anyway, idea is out there – maybe it’s not a good one…..  

S3 samples are not streamed from the disc. They are loaded into RAM.

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