Besides the ‘usual’ grooves, it comes with jamtracks, each in one basic and one intermediate version. I think it’s pretty safe to say that these performances are much improvised.
Can we get more detailed, specific information about the Jazz MIDI product? I’m very interested, but also very wary. I bought the Jazz EZX package and was disappointed with the MIDI tracks. The demos on the web site sound fantastic but I didn’t realize it was because a real, highly-skilled drummer was playing the tracks in real-time. Trying to recreate anything close to that with the MIDI chunks in Jazz EZX is an exercise in futility. The phrases are too short and/or or too repetitious to sound convincing–IMO, a mid- to uptempo swing/bebop track needs to be AT LEAST 16 and preferably 32 bars of real-time, non-repetitious playing to be usable.
I would like to be able to hear examples of drum tracks assembled from the MIDI chunks in Jazz MIDI, and also know specifically what’s included. For example, how many variations of an uptempo bebop groove are there? And how long are they? (assuming a 32-bar chunk is a drummer recorded live for 32 bars, not an 8-bar live recording that is then copied/pasted three more times). If I can get this, and confirm that the product is usable for me, I will happily purchase it.
Details re Roots Midi are basic but you probably wont get too much more >
“After the success of the Jazz MIDI release in August and by popular demand, jazz/fusion and all-around drummer extraordinaire Morgan Ågren is back with another library jam-packed with stunning performances!
This pack will be a great complement to the owners of Jazz MIDI that simply couldn’t get enough of Morgan’s patented feel – or for first timers looking for drums with a slight “rootsier” feel.
• Leading instrument categorization in full 8 bar or more loops, full songs as basic or intermediate versions, rudiment and ending sections
• Big band, ballad, funk and blues styles in straight and/or swing feel”
Thanks Juicy–but I need something more than the standard marketing verbiage.
I’m a little confused by Toontrack’s “customer support,” or lack of it. I posted my earlier question and got no response. Seeing as how you can’t contact the company for information directly (via phone or email), how do you get questions answered if you post in this forum and no Toontrack rep responds? This is a little disappointing.
as for this particular question, I am pretty sure I personally provided more technical info at the time, but I’m happy to post the documentation that comes with the MIDI, if that should be helpful. If you have any question about this then we can try to answer it in more details, though you need to keep in mind that the more technical the question the more it may require a programmer to answer accurately. Still we’ll try to do our best.
Where is the email link? When I go to the “Support Portal” page, I see clickable graphics for the most popular products, which doesn’t include the Jazz MIDI product. When I click the Superior Drummer graphic (the product I already own), I see a page full of information about various issues, which does not help me, and still no email link.
I’m not sure how the attachment you provided, which has something to do with triggering brushes in Roots, is relevant to Jazz MIDI.
The documentation may be helpful–thanks for offering to provide it. To see what would be most helpful, please re-read my post above from Dec. 20.
In the link Rogue provide you select your product (S2, EZD, EZplayer etc.) and filter your selection (category, platform, sequencer). You will see a list of FAQs on the left (Select your issue). There is a FAQ listed as ‘My issue is not covered in this FAQ, what next?’. Click on it and follow the steps.
As far as your questions:
For example, how many variations of an uptempo bebop groove are there? And how long are they? (assuming a 32-bar chunk is a drummer recorded live for 32 bars, not an 8-bar live recording that is then copied/pasted three more times).
There are 4 style categories in the Jazz MIDI pack.
Big Band (swing 3/4 and swing 4/4)
Bossa (straight 3/4, straight 4/4, and swing 4/4)
Blues (swing 4/4)
Samba (straight 4/4)
Each style is then broken down into songs. Each song is broken down into a Basic and Intermediate version. Basic is played more simply and Intermediate is more busy. Each song has a ‘Jam Track’ which is the drummer’s entire performance of the song (some over 200 measures). Along with the Jam Track the songs are broken down into smaller sections (8-12 or 16 bars) that feature ‘Hats’ or ‘Cymbals’ or ‘Rudiments’ or ‘Endings’.
I’m not sure how fast an uptempo ‘bebop’ song is but the Big Band songs range from 148BPM to 200BPM. There are about 160 grooves in the Big Band swing 4/4 folder. That includes the Jam Track and the shorter variations.
I have the Roots Bundle now and also have the Ez version
Lets just say the new Jazz midi is still nicely complimented via use of other midi libraries too YMMV.
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