Hi Hat Question

[cchhaadd]

Hi, I have my hart epedal II hi hat set up to trigger the tight closed hi hat whenever it closes since I like that sound the best for closed Hi hat. One thing it does is when I hit the hat and then lift up the pedal the sound gets muted and then you hear the faint sound of an open hi hat. Sounds like it is trying to make an open sound based off the hit when the hi hat is closed. Any remedies? I have it setup for the edrum trigger setup. Thanks,
-Chad

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[John]

Hi,

are you referring to the Toontrack solo ‘E-drum’ controller option or Superior 2’s ‘E-drum’ MIDI Preset?

Best Regards,
John

John Rammelt - Toontrack
Technical Advisor

[cchhaadd]

Superior 2’s ‘E-drum’ MIDI Preset?

Hi John,

Superior 2’s ‘E-drum’ MIDI Preset

[John]

OK,

it sounds like you have a conflict then with the ‘Trig’ scheme and articulation notes. After selecting the ‘E-drum’ MIDI Preset, have you manually ‘Learned’ articulation notes?

John Rammelt - Toontrack
Technical Advisor

[cchhaadd]

OK, I’ll try that and see how it goes.
Thanks!

[John]

I think you may misunderstand me, Learning articulation notes while at the same time using the hatsTrig function for triggering and the HH pedal sending CC data will cause conflicts.
If you wish the Closed Tight articulation to trigger when Closed normally triggers, you adjust the Velocity curves.

John Rammelt - Toontrack
Technical Advisor

[cchhaadd]

OK, so I set it up just as the midi edrums setup. I have it set so that if I press the pedal hard it closes tighter. I haven’t edited or learned any new notes etc. So no problem there. I also have it set on the more closed no curve pedal setting. Layer limit is unlimited with 20 voices. It works except 2 things. When I hit the hat closed and lift up after, there is silence, like the sample is muted. Then also, when I use my foot on the hi hat I get a tight closed tip that triggers at the same time. Maybe I’m just not getting something right and I apologize if I don’t get it.

Is the transmuting not designed to work if you go from a tight edge or tight tip to an open hat after hitting and waiting a quick second? It sounds fine when I go from a normal closed hi hat to open. It seems like the closed hi hat trigger sound gets in the way. Hopefully I’m making sense? Thanks for your patience.

[John]

OK,

IIRC, I had some first quirks with my Hart Epedal II as well and I think I had to work with the sensitivity slightly in the Roland module, since it doesn’t behave exactly as the Roland HHs. Please record a sequence in your DAW, so you can inspect what happens when you get unnatural cutoffs, i.e. if there are notes/events that shouldn’t be there.
It makes it easier to know what to adjust.
The Transmuting should work both ways, yes.

John Rammelt - Toontrack
Technical Advisor

[cchhaadd]

OK, I think I figured it out and still maybe you can help. I have the hi hat up in the OH trak and it doesn’t do it when I mute the overheads? Why would it do this only in the oh trck?. Seems weird. Is it a memory thing? ALso I still get 2 triggered notes when I press down on the hats and they close. it is triggering the top of the hi hat trigger and the closed hat trigger. Is there a way to cancel out the top hat trigger when pressng the hat without hitting the hat with a stick?
Thanks!
-Chad

[cchhaadd]

Hey John, have any thoughts?

[John]

Hi,

the cross-talk between the pedal chick note and the hihat should be possible to get better in your TD-9 and you should also have a Splash sensitivity parameter. Try making less sensitive to see if it helps. My kit isn’t up and running ATM, so I can’t check things myself.

John Rammelt - Toontrack
Technical Advisor

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