Facing Worlds, a new metal tune to love and hold and cherish

[Joshua Pollard]

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Please let me know if the low end is doing good on this one. I approached the bass guitar differently than I usually do. My ears are tired. I’m debating buy a sub to mix. It would be cool if somebody would just build me a damn studio to do this stuff in. Comments are much appreciated. Also, I had a sinus infection while singing. My lead guitarist ran the DAW for me even though I was right next to him loaded up with vicks vapor rub and no shirt LOFL!

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[ajxtjs]

Good job man, mix sounds pretty good, low end is doing fine by my ears – it’s got some meat to it but the kick is coming through pretty clearly. As a small criticism, the bass maybe sounds slightly ugly at the double-kick part. By the way don’t bother buying a sub for mixing purposes, they’re notoriously terrible and won’t give you a clear picture of the mix at all.

Oh and vocals sounds really good and clear – what mic/preamp etc are you using? Voice is somewhere between Robb Flynn and Bruce Dickinson I reckon 🙂

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[Joshua Pollard]

Yea, I think I’m just going to save my money and pass on the sub. The bass may sound weird at the double bass part just because of the 16th notes. They just sound odd on bass some times, the pluck sound just carries through. It’s just how bass sounds I suppose.

I’m using the Shure SM7B which is newly acquired. I was using an AT4040 but decided it was time to change things up especially since I’m a pretty loud singer. The pre amp is just the Presonus Firestudio Mobile which gets the job done. Thanks for the thumbs up on the voice.

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[GORILLA]

A sub woofer can be bad, and can be helpful. If you know where most car / mp3 / cd players standard cross over points are at you can use that sub to get crazy kick thump and massive bass! I pulled my mp3 from here because its going on a cd and this past weekend we went over to my buds studio who does nothing but hip-hop / dance music. HUGE sub and system there and I had him leave his system totally setup for hip hop/ mad sub bass songs. And put ours on it. Was a rude awakening for me but he taught me about controlling those lower frequencies and how to use sine wavs and HOLY SH*T!!! I was like a kid in a candy store.

Nice tune monkeymanx, but yeah…. if you get that sub and don’t do much hip hop/ lower frequency stuff. I’d start looking around for someone who does and is good at it! It’s a whole new ball-game for me now and I think you’ll freak too!!! Oh yeeah, if you knew this already….. mybad 🙂

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[Joshua Pollard]

I have an idea of where the low frequencies sit and how each area sounds on a sub. I can thank my home theater sub crossover for that. Each area has a different low end sound. I guess with metal we don’t really think about stuff like the sub frequencies, stuff below 50hz, the real low rumbling. Then again I’m not sure if that would be good in metal. I like more punch and tight bass and the rumble for metal.

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[VOLiTiAN]

Hmmmm I dunno, when mixing it’s all about A) knowing YOUR reference speakers, their foibles and all and B) hopefully having something good enough to actually *hear* the freq’s you are working with… we use crossovers, and the problem is you may mix bass light but that’s about tuning your listening environment, add a nice fat curve around 65-75hz sloping down at around 110hz and you’d be amazed the perceived low end and depth it adds to the mix, it needent be boomy just has to be tuned with your environment and ears aware of any inherent problems, the main issue people have is with phase amplification or cancellation due to the standing waves which is normally more apparently in lower freq systems. The problem is if your speakers can’t produce the low freq’s at any useable volume and you want to tweak your sound, which when looking at running lower Hz the difference of 1Hz either way can start having a bigger impact then a sub is definitely the way to go in my humbe opinion….

but…

ORIGINAL: ajxtjs

 By the way don’t bother buying a sub for mixing purposes, they’re notoriously terrible and won’t give you a clear picture of the mix at all.

I do however take issue with the above, that’s SUCH a sweeping and unfounded statement and frankly the internet is crammed with those already, would you mind offering a little legitimate backup and maybe provide some resource to support your statement?

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