EZKeys out of tune?

[Jürgen Schwab]

EZKeys is a great concept for songwriters and producers who aren’t good pianists, but to my ears the piano doesn’t seem to be perfectly in tune. Of course I don’t jugde from the detune-phase of the demo. For instance I think, that the note E1 is a little too high. Play a c-chord over more than two octaves and you can hear it…

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[Cygnus64]

Yes, it’s out of tune. I’m hoping that is fixable but I’m guessing it was sampled that way.

Note to Toontrack: The “Detune” was a really, really, really, really, bad idea. Drop some notes, have a “beep”, a time limit, ANYTHING except making your product sound bad ON PURPOSE. It’s even worse when it calls attention to an out of tune piano to begin with. It’s not bad and probably usable, but the detune thing is…wow…. not working for ya.

[jgro002]

It’s definitely not perfectly in tune. I don’t know quite how to put this because I’m going to sound like I’m majorly over-reacting but…having played the cello for 13ish years (which really tunes your ears to hear minute variations in pitch), EZKeys sounds way out of tune to me – not just slightly out :S

But I may be crazy 😉

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[Juicy]

I guess you could generate midi and use a better piano come mix down, the shame is that it s tonal balance sounds real decent but
tuning does seem to have issues .

[Michael]

ORIGINAL: jgro002
It’s definitely not perfectly in tune. I don’t know quite how to put this because I’m going to sound like I’m majorly over-reacting but…having played the cello for 13ish years (which really tunes your ears to hear minute variations in pitch), EZKeys sounds way out of tune to me – not just slightly out :S

Are you sure you don’t have any detune, or chorus effects added to your instrument that would cause that?

[Jürgen Schwab]

The tuning of a piano is a delicate process, that’s for sure. The tempered tuning invented by Bach, as we all know, will inevitably cause some intervals to sound not perfectly in tune. Considering that I still think, that EZkeys should be better in tune, and again: I’m not talking about the detune phase of the demo version. Probably the piano was sampled with the tuning we hear. But it should be possible to tune the samples after they have been recorded. So I hope Toontrack will be working on that. After all Native Instruments “acoustic piano” offers the option to change the tuning of the sampled pianos.

[Jürgen Schwab]

Listening to the SlowClassic-Example of the new EZKeys Midi-Pack, one can hear, that the tuning of EZKeys still isn’t properly fixed. Now that’s disappointing. I wouldn’t buy this instrument before it’s perfectly in tune.

[Jay Coover]

EDIT: replacing my original post here as I have done some research on this and checked it with a tuner.

In short, it looks to me to be a perfectly stretch tuned piano by all measurements. Sounds great to my ears.

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[Roger Keay]

ORIGINAL: fizbin

EDIT: replacing my original post here as I have done some research on this and checked it with a tuner.

In short, it looks to me to be a perfectly stretch tuned piano by all measurements. Sounds great to my ears.

As far as SOTP ears-wise, I agree. It sounds like every well tuned ‘stretched’ Steinway I’ve recorded. I think stretch tuning is the only way a good grand piano will sound ‘good’, as objective as that is. I’ve been using EZ-Keys for about 2 weeks straight and love the piano. Perhaps in the future they will include both an even tempered and stretched version of the tuning like the ProTools Mini-Grand.

[Rodney Foster]

Ever since the EZbass the EZkeys keep going out of tune and giving me a weird effect sound when playing back in my song.

[Henrik]

Rodney Foster wrote:

Ever since the EZbass the EZkeys keep going out of tune and giving me a weird effect sound when playing back in my song.

can you explain further? Is it because of the demo limits of EZkeys? Or do you feel that the tones are not tuned similar in EZbass and EZkeys?

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[Oscar Stern]

I think 2 of the notes on the Dream Machine Mark MK VII Rhodes (G#1 & A1) aren’t working on my end when I click on the keys.

[Oscar Stern]

2 of the keys on the Dream Machine Mark MK VII Rhodes (G#1 & A1) do not sound when I click on them

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