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  • Platinum Samples
    Participant

    Thanks Juicy!

    BTW – Check out our new metal MIDI Library: http://www.platinumsamples.com/ps/BobbyJarzombekGrooves.php

    Cheers,

    Rail

    Professionally Recorded Multitrack Drum Samples
    http://tinyurl.com/26k2xjo
    www.platinumsamples.com

    Scott
    Participant

    Just a word of gratitude to Rail & Joe for the sensational EVIL Drums SDX.

    Scott
    Participant

    Double post, sorry……… had to order it after the comment from Juicy. All complaints from wife will directed to you:)

    Whitten
    Participant

    It’s worth it, and the discount price is silly.

    Scott
    Participant

    The problem is I just upgraded to C&V last month after holding out cause I have S1. That upgrade was worth it too!

    Juicy
    Participant

    A note about the E D midi mapping.
    The real rim shot is on the E note above the D which breaks away from normal TT/GM midi mapping so be sure to make use of the solid
    rim shots.
    This may require some learner drivers to actually get editing existing midi files when needed,if they use them,
    this is a good thing and well worth it .
    Have not tested all snares yet but i’m pretty sure that real flams are up the keyboard too !!

    Platinum Samples
    Participant

    You can set up a MIDI Node to switch from center hit to rim shot by velocity – see our forum thread:

    https://www.platinumsamples.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=190&start=10

    where I posted a “How To” video.

    The GM Map actually does put the rim shot on the E

    Flams are on A3 (69) which is also standard for SDX’s with a Flam articulation.

    Thanks,

    Rail

    Professionally Recorded Multitrack Drum Samples
    http://tinyurl.com/26k2xjo
    www.platinumsamples.com

    Scott
    Moderator

    The real rim shot is on the E note above the D which breaks away from normal TT/GM midi mapping

    Are you sure? All libraries I checked (I checked ’em all) have the ‘rimshot’ articulation at note 40 (E1) and an alias at 126 (F#8). Well, all but the MC have the alias at 126 (F#8) but the MC does have the rimshot 40 (E1).

    Scott Sibley - Toontrack
    Technical Advisor

    Juicy
    Participant

    Well this is my way of hearing it ,most of TT’s rimshots or punchy hits fire on the D at 127 velocity and they sound like what rimshots sound like on a real kit so after years of using it i guess i wrongly call them rimshots cuz most the E sound like a thin sort of missed rim (like not much drum got hit at all) at whatever level it plays at .
    However Evil Drums has a definite extra oomph/crack to its rimshot which to me is what a rimshot should be.
    But yes i think my above post regarding the “midi Mapping ” is incorrect technically.

    Sorry bout that.Thanks Scottie.!

    Platinum Samples
    Participant

    Hi Juicy,

    Yes, TT build their snares so that the top velocity is a rim shot… we did not, our rim shots are separate.. but to emulate what TT do you can create a velocity switch node as indicated in my link above where this is discussed.

    Video: https://www.platinumsamples.com/videos/SplitNode.mov

    Thanks,

    Rail

    Professionally Recorded Multitrack Drum Samples
    http://tinyurl.com/26k2xjo
    www.platinumsamples.com

    Whitten
    Participant

    You’re right Juicy.
    A rimshot is generally a fullsome backbeat incorporating both rim and centre head in the one strike.
    TT libraries all include snare FX, which is often an offbeat rimshot, like an accident.

    ORIGINAL: Platinum Samples
    Yes, TT build their snares so that the top velocity is a rim shot…

    Really? Maybe I’m misunderstanding this, but do you mean that for any regular TT snare, a velocity of 126 is actually only the snare, and 127 is a rimshot?

    Platinum Samples
    Participant

    The split point may not be exactly at 126/127.. but yes.

    Rail

    Professionally Recorded Multitrack Drum Samples
    http://tinyurl.com/26k2xjo
    www.platinumsamples.com

    Damn, I always thought this was the case, but some people denied it. No TT people, mind you.

    Juicy
    Participant

    Thanks Boys

    Trust your Ears ! .

    Great tip Rail ,that will come in handy when working quickly.
    I want to be clear,i no way is the platinum approach negative i think its a great way to do it.

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