DTX 900 – 3 Zone Crash – Cym Bow Sound?

[kstahl]

How can I trigger a bow/tip on my crash cymbals with my DTX 900. I am testing out Superior Drummer in my friends studio and we can not figure out how to get anything other than an edge crash and a bell sound to trigger from my pads. As a jazz drummer, I kind of need that 3rd zone to work.

Thanks!

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[John]

Hi,

could you please supply more setup details?
Which version of Superior 2 are you using (it’s displayed in the plugin interface)?
Which host are you using?
Are you using the Yamaha E-drums MIDI Preset found on the Mapping page?

John Rammelt - Toontrack
Technical Advisor

[kstahl]

Hi,

This is version 2.3 in Cubase Pro 8. Yes, I am using the Yamaha E-Drums MIDI Preset. SD’s ride cymbal correctly responds to the 3 zones of my ride cymbal (Bell, Edge, and Bow). But SD’s crash cymbals do not properly respond to the Bow part of my cymbal pad. Both the edge and bow make the same sound in SD. The crash cymbal bell *is* properly working.

If I right-click the crash cymbal, I only see 2 articulations available in the lower-right box of the interface. I can’t figure out how to (or, if it’s possible to) manually map the 3rd articuulation.

[Olof Westman]

Most SDXs don’t offer any other articulation than ‘crash’ for crashes. Well,
except the ‘Mute’ which is a muted ‘Crash’. The exceptions I am aware of
are the two ‘Roots’ and the ‘Music City’ SDXs. Those three have crashes
with ‘Crash’, ‘Ride’ and ‘Bell’ articulations or more.

Which SDX are you using?

Olof Westman - Toontrack
Coder

[kstahl]

It was the Vintage Expansion. Can you mix and match drums and cymbals from different expansions?

[Olof Westman]

>It was the Vintage Expansion.

Ok. Yeah, it has nothing but Crash and Mute for the crashes.

>Can you mix and match drums and cymbals from different expansions?

Yes, you can use the x-drum feature to bring in more drums from
any expansion of your choice. Whether they sound good together
is another matter. They are, after all, recorded in different rooms with
different mics in different places. From what I understand you should
have at least two expansions available so you can try it for yourself.

Olof Westman - Toontrack
Coder

[kstahl]

Perfect! I appreciate all your help. It sounds like the Roots expansion is what I need to solve my problem.

Thanks!

[Olof Westman]

Roots is peculiar in that the 4 cymbals all seem to be rides. They all have
Crash articulations though. Music City definitely has normal crashes
with Ride and Bell articulations.

Olof Westman - Toontrack
Coder

[John]

@kstahl said:

This is version 2.3 in Cubase Pro 8.

…and don’t forget to update to 2.4.1…

John Rammelt - Toontrack
Technical Advisor

[kstahl]

@Olle said:

Roots is peculiar in that the 4 cymbals all seem to be rides. They all have
Crash articulations though.

That is perfect. Sounds like exactly what I want for a more traditional jazz sound!

[kstahl]

@John said:

@kstahl said:

This is version 2.3 in Cubase Pro 8.

…and don’t forget to update to 2.4.1…

I will definitely do that. I don’t actually own it yet. I’m playing with it at my friends place. I think you sold me on moving ahead with the purchase though. This cymbal issue was the only thing standing in my way.

Thanks again everyone!!

[Author]

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