best electronic trigger kit for ez drummer in cubase

[cooperman]

Hi People.
Im running Cubase 4 and ez drummer. I would like to buy an electronic drumkit to trigger ez drummer (or superior drummer). I want to take advantage of ez drummers subtlties to catch all the natural feel of the player I can.
What can you recomend as the best kits to buy. Value for money is important to me but the main thing by far is the need to catch a natural feel.

I want to make the drummer feel comfy. I know I need velocity sensitive pads and guess i need multizone pads too but that is about as far as it goes.

Thanks

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[Scott]

I can’t comment on which edrum kit to purchase but you definitely would want to use Superior Drummer 2 with e-drums as EZdrummer wasn’t designed for edrums. EZD performs ok with edrums when used in Toontrack Solo (using the Edrum preset), but not so well in other hosts.

Scott Sibley - Toontrack
Technical Advisor

[PW]

I have done this for years and find that the best value is a used roland kit and VH11 or VH12 hi hat. Yamaha has some good kits but most drummers will only like the newest silicone pads. Drummers who do not normally play E drum will want the largest pads as well. You can find many used roland pads. The older PD120 mesh pad works well. The KD8 kick trigger is fine and cheap.

I would find a used Roland kit with any module and then add parts to it. The TD12/20 modules allow the use of the VH12 hi hat and postional sensing on the snare so they would be better if that is in the budget.

Peter Warren

[cooperman]

Thanks, I’m a complete newcomer to all this and have been using EZ for about six months with a mixture of the library grooves, hand editing and a little usb pad trigger thingy.
Please could you tell me the significant difference between superior drums and EZ when it comes to E-drums. Also will superior just plug into the cubase the same way?

[cooperman]

ORIGINAL: PW

I have done this for years and find that the best value is a used roland kit and VH11 or VH12 hi hat. Yamaha has some good kits but most drummers will only like the newest silicone pads. Drummers who do not normally play E drum will want the largest pads as well. You can find many used roland pads. The older PD120 mesh pad works well. The KD8 kick trigger is fine and cheap.

I would find a used Roland kit with any module and then add parts to it. The TD12/20 modules allow the use of the VH12 hi hat and postional sensing on the snare so they would be better if that is in the budget.

Peter Warren

Nice one Peter, Great to know someone who it works for. I’ll check these pads out and see what i can find. Thanks again Dave

[Scott]

ORIGINAL: cooperman

Thanks, I’m a complete newcomer to all this and have been using EZ for about six months with a mixture of the library grooves, hand editing and a little usb pad trigger thingy.
Please could you tell me the significant difference between superior drums and EZ when it comes to E-drums. Also will superior just plug into the cubase the same way?

Superior Drummer 2 has better hi-hat performance with e-drums. The MIDI Learn feature makes mapping sounds much easier in S2 also. I’m sure there are other tweaks for e-drums in S2 but I don’t have an e-drum kit to comment further. Yes, you can load S2 in Cubase the same as you do EZdrummer.

Scott Sibley - Toontrack
Technical Advisor

[cooperman]

Hi Peter.

Thanks for the advice it has proved very useful. I picked up a used TD12 kit yesterday and am ready to wire it to EZ.

I don’t have a dedicated midi interface, only usb, so I was wondering what the best way to wire the kit up would be in your opinion. I guess that any midi to usb converter will do as long as its USB2.0 high speed, but as I don’t really know I thought i should ask?

Once I’ve got the midi connected I will need to map the midi triggers to EZ. Do you have any tips please. I note from Scott that Superior drummer has a midi learn feature, perhaps I should go for the upgrade?

One last thing. Should I expect latency problems with Cubase? Will I need to upgrade the PC? I have an m-audio delta card and all the correct ASIO drivers and have set monitor via hardware. At a guess the only latency problems, if any, should be during monitoring while recording the kit. I am hoping that any time delays in detecting / recording / time stamping the drum triggers will be to small to affect how the drums are recorded, so when paying back the recording I would expect them to be reproduced exactly as they were recorded. Is this the case in your experience?

Thanks very much indeed for the help so far.
Dave

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