Added a Hi Hat sample

[Tele' O'Neil]

Wow! What a program. First class guys, first class!

I hope you can help me with a couple of issues I’ve run into.

I tried to add three of my go to Hi Hat samples (by Paiste) but can’t seem to get the closed sample to stop the open sample from continuing to play within S3.

Years ago I used an Alesis D4 Drum Module which allowed the user to select either a Polyphonic or Mono output that automatically took care of any situations when a note had to be muted by another note. Alesis referred to the solution as either a Mono, or Polyphonic output if you wanted all the notes to continue ringing in their entirety without cutting one another off (such as the Toms or Cymbals). It was an easy solution to understand & easy to employ.

Since I haven’t used an Alesis D4 for years I was fortunate to find a similar feature in Battery 3 that I used (in tandem with Superior 2) & running the Open Hi Hat, Foot Pedal, & Closed Hi Hat through a Mono channel because I was unable to add my own samples to Toontrack Superior 2. This seemed to work fine but added the need to use additional software which depleted my RAM just to use a few additional samples that Superior 2 didn’t have nor did I have the option to add my own samples to S2. It made my PC unnecessarily sluggish considering this can be done within the S3 environment. I hope you can shed some light on this issue for me.

I’m not sure if the Ride cymbal is handled in the same way but I’ve noticed that after a few bars the buildup on the ride becomes overly busy & lacks the definition. I had it setup in Battery 3 with Mono as well so every note being played automatically turned off the previous note & I didn’t get that build-up I’m noticing in S3.

Thank you & keep up the fine work!

Tri-Net Media

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[John]

Hi,

regarding the Ride, you can limit the voices in the Voice and Layer Property box. You can also play with the Smoothing property, I guess.

How did you add your own HH samples; have you set up new Instruments or are you Stacking/Replacing?
I haven’t tried it myself but I guess you would need to Stack on the separate articulations to get the opening and closing to work.

BR,
John

John Rammelt - Toontrack
Technical Advisor

[Tele' O'Neil]

Hi John
Thanks for your help.
I’ve created a stack & simply turned down the hi hats that the Pearl kit uses.
Now when I play an open Hi Hat the closed Hi Hat doesn’t turn off the open HH sound.
I’m not clear on where to set this up?

Thanks
Vic

Tri-Net Media

[Henrik]

Unfortunately, it’s not possible to make custom samples mute other custom samples – only the factory instruments can do those “mute group” actions.
We have gotten some requests on improving custom building of instruments, so I’ll take this as a feature request!

Henrik Ekblom - User Experience Designer
Toontrack

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[Andy Newson]

Hi there, I saw this and wondered if there has been an update yet, I am looking to use my own hi hat and cymbal samples,  Currently I have stacked the hi hat but the open hi hat sustains rather than mute to go back to a tight hi hat.

Thanks

[Henrik]

This hasn’t been addressed yet!

Henrik Ekblom - User Experience Designer
Toontrack

[aky_1]

Is it possible now? or will be someday?

Hi-hat sounds are most important for my drum.

So, I really wish that it will be done.

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[markusveralius]

It would be great if SD3 streamlines the use of custom samples/kits to work well with e-drums, especially if it wants to achieve the claim of being the most complete drum software there is. Currently, it’s faster, easier and more flexible to create a custom sample-built kit in Ableton Live Lite within a drum rack. However, I would prefer to use SD3 alone.

Things like cymbal choking, hi hat articulations (closed and open hi-hats at a minimum) I expected to be much easier. It’s seems that the only way currently is the hack-y workaround method shown by Vic in the post above with the images. That is, stacking articulations and then turning down the SD3 sample volume to zero. John also helpfully showed how to emulate choking by changing the number of channels to one, but again this is just a workaround, and makes the workflow awkward.

It’s a shame the stock electronic hi-hat graphic only supports a single hit, for example. It makes using custom sounds or building electronic-style kits a real hassle.

If it can be done, why make it difficult and finicky for the user?

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[Brick Fist Pow]

I’m having the same issue with my Linndrum HH open/close not muting the open hat. I need this!!! I want to use Toontrack midi with my samples.

[Andy Newson]

Any news Tootrack?  This thread has been going on for a good few years now and no solution.  Surely it’s a programming job – articulation A turns off articulation B for example.  Considering the cost of SD3 this is an easy task to sort out.  There has been plenty of time given as a consumer for this to be rectified.  Is there a way around this yet that works properly for open hi hat closing and the sound not continuing to accept closed hi hat?

[John]

Hi,

there is no User implementation of “Mute Groups” but you can enable the ‘Envelope and Offset’ for the Open sound and set the Release to be Triggered by Note Off (adjust Release Time to taste).
If you are using the Grid Editor, you Enable the ‘Show Note Length’ for that Row and set the length for as long it should sound.

BR,
John

John Rammelt - Toontrack
Technical Advisor

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