Topic: Just a wild idea to make upgrade possible for those with data cap on internet

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Replied January 24, 2018 at 20:22 #2002059

Scott Eshleman
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With the George Massenberg SD3 library clocking in at over 230GB,
I believe the math works out to over 50 DVDs!!
A ‘wild idea’ indeed.

Replied January 24, 2018 at 22:26 #2002064

Lars Fossum
Participant

Well, there is full boxed version – that does not say “download” as upgrade version says.
So how is that done?
What is production cost for that – just have that as separate option for download version too – just as Steinberg Halion has for content on that stuff?

I belive dual layer DVD are about 9.5 GB so half your suggested amount, 25 disks, is my guess.
Then there is BD media which would mean 4-5 Bluray disks.

If you want physical media as backup as well, that is offered on some more products I’ve had over the years even.

Just give us payed options – and everybody wins. Everybody that wants to upgrade – can do that.

Everytime I download a patch for xbox game – it says “connection charges may apply” or similar.
So it’s not like uncommon with data cap on internet.

Replied January 24, 2018 at 22:45 #2002065

Scott
Moderator

You can purchase the S3 library fully installed on an SSD.

https://www.toontrack.com/product/superior-drummer-3-ssd-disk/

Scott Sibley - Toontrack
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Replied January 25, 2018 at 18:43 #2002082

Lars Fossum
Participant

Thank you, yes, but as mentioned in first post – all my SATA connections are occupied.

I use 128 GB SDXC cards for cameras, two of those would suffice – or similar as usb – would be half price compared to SSD(about £50 each in small numbers).
Think optical media is cheaper each GB.

If download manager has plenty separate options to do downloads in partials – probably big improvement as well.
Not sure if it’s just one chunk now, or already so.

Just throwing wild general ideas, that might be appreciated by many.

When Halion 6 was released Steinberg they did not have physical media option for upgrades/crossgrades.
A year later they did – so many people probably asked the same questions as I – can we have content on physical media at an additional cost?

I think EU had plans that 2025 everybody should have 100 Mbps fiber – until then quite a few have data caps.
At 2020 50% at 5G, which might still have data cap I assume, as 4G has now.

Replied January 25, 2018 at 19:09 #2002083

Olof Westman
Forum Crew

The SSD option is an external USB drive, not an internal SATA drive.

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Replied January 25, 2018 at 19:37 #2002084

Scott Eshleman
Participant

@Nip said:
Thank you, yes, but as mentioned in first post – all my SATA connections are occupied.

I use 128 GB SDXC cards for cameras, two of those would suffice – or similar as usb – would be half price compared to SSD(about £50 each in small numbers).
Think optical media is cheaper each GB.

Perhaps it’s not clear but the (optional) 256 GB solid-state drive (SSD) with USB 3.0 connector is an external drive.

The full 230GB George Massenberg SD3 library is set up for download in 5 segments
and a series of progressively larger installation options with progressively more microphones, bleed, etc.

PS. Regarding SDXC cards, you’d need a 256GB card and a card reader that supports it.
Unless you can configure multiple cards into a RAID across multiple card readers as mentioned above.

Replied January 26, 2018 at 22:50 #2002110

Lars Fossum
Participant

OK, did not know about USB 3 drive – but have only usb 2 so probably not doable for realtime use.
Did a little benchmark once . copying to external drives – and it was five times slower than internal.

I tried to find a lower build height graphics card to use that slot not covered for usb 3 controller card.

General idea from me with solid state media was mostly as distribution to copy to harddrive, that wasn’t good enough really for realtime reading.

Anyway, idea is out there – maybe it’s not a good one…..

Replied January 26, 2018 at 23:03 #2002111

Scott
Moderator

@Nip said:
OK, did not know about USB 3 drive – but have only usb 2 so probably not doable for realtime use.
Did a little benchmark once . copying to external drives – and it was five times slower than internal.

I tried to find a lower build height graphics card to use that slot not covered for usb 3 controller card.

General idea from me with solid state media was mostly as distribution to copy to harddrive, that wasn’t good enough really for realtime reading.

Anyway, idea is out there – maybe it’s not a good one…..

S3 samples are not streamed from the disc. They are loaded into RAM.

Scott Sibley - Toontrack
Technical Advisor
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